nike snowboard boots
as in bobby meeks…the ladies man? i wondered what had happened to the fat bob….good to see he is still around! i guess a lot of that generation of boarders are still hanging around behind the scenes ala mikey le blanc, todd richards, travis parker etc. good riders never fade huh.
anyway back on topic, yes time WILL tell if they hang around or not, it all comes down to the market, if no-one is buying, they will pull out!
i’d prefer to see brands like 32, Deeluxe etc get ahead more than nike, from what i can see in the tech, nike seems similar to 32’s from a few years back. (the style also, boxy style, laces etc.)
i’d prefer to see brands like 32, Deeluxe etc get ahead more than nike,
Me too!
With all the brands to choose from, why choose Nike?
I def agree. I have run with DC since 1999 and why change if they keep my feet comfy…..but yes Bobby Meeks mister ladies man, Mr ring ring “booty call” (afterlame) is TM of nike snowboarding.
haha thats so funny….i have that same tone on my phone for messages and EVERY time it goes off, SDV laughs and says booty call just like bobby meeks did in that clip.
It always makes me laugh when this topic comes up in regards to whats core and what isnt….. I noticed alot of people hitting up Quiksilver say its a surf brand yet if you look at their logo its a wave with a mountain its been that way from way back….quik has been committed to the snow scene from day 1… Brands such as DC, Gnu , lib are indeed owned by quik but its a cut throat industry out there and people need to go to the bigger companies to survive or expand.
In regards to nike they seem to have a solid team, the boots look the part but time will tell because if the product isnt up to scratch people wont buy them. lets not forget that bobby meeks is the man running the show for nike snowboarding….you cant get a better track record than that. Watch any of his robot food parts to see what i mean, and before someone says “he rode for k2 and k2 is a ski brand” lets not forget that k2 owns ride snowboards.
so being a good snowboarder qualifies you to run a boot program? how do you figure?
lets not forget that jarden crock pot company owns k2 which owns ride. not sure where you were going with that.
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this is interesting, i work for adidas, in which used to own salomon, but now have split…
original soccer/football shoe manufacturer + salomon outdoor and winter sports manufacturer = more money into outdoor activity expansion and technology advancements stronger/better quality goods.
i will always try to buy/ride local products, but as you guys have all pointed out, everyone owns everyone.
benno, that is assuming that the footwear company invested and put money back into the winter sports part of the business.
What can just as easily happen is the money that the winter sports is maing is brought back into the footwear development, which is what the company really cares about in teh long run… just another scenario.
I diddnt know Adidas wasnt owning Salomon anymore. I guess they either thought that they werent making enough money, or that they skimmed all the money they could out of it for now. Either scenario shows they diddnt care about winter snow sports.
benno, that is assuming that the footwear company invested and put money back into the winter sports part of the business.
What can just as easily happen is the money that the winter sports is maing is brought back into the footwear development, which is what the company really cares about in teh long run… just another scenario.
i totally agree, i dont think any money was put back into the industry for R&D, as for why adidas bought in, they wanted to tap into the european hiking market in which salomon has alot of outerwear and footwear. the scenario that i suggested was only of an perfect situation where a big company sees interest in preserving something for good. adidas got out before they got to deep and kinda realized it is not their place to be.
As for nike joining the snowboard phenomenon, they all know how fast the sport is growing and cant resist. if they do it well and properly, which would include developing themselves from the ground up with a good r&d team, be rider focused and build quality and not mass quantity it will take the sport to new highs… if they exploit the sport and are looking for another way to build global dominance then they should take no part…
Realistically when it comes to quik own dc and things that doesn’t really matter, did you know nike own converse? The companies although they are owned by a larger company are kept very seperate and have their own mission statements and objectives.
Nike have a lot of money. I can see them putting in double what every other snowboard company does.
as for the comment about new balance… they actually did have snowboard boots reciently i think they were a colab with one of the other “core” companies.
As for nike and the boot tech. Most the technical features companies come up with a just gymics so they can charge you another $50 for a pair of boots. Realistically if nike boots are running heat mould liners and the feature that reduces footprint size from like 11-10 or 10-9 etc they are good boots. maybe some BOA as well as long as they dont break.
benno, that is assuming that the footwear company invested and put money back into the winter sports part of the business.
What can just as easily happen is the money that the winter sports is maing is brought back into the footwear development, which is what the company really cares about in teh long run… just another scenario.i totally agree, i dont think any money was put back into the industry for R&D, as for why adidas bought in, they wanted to tap into the european hiking market in which salomon has alot of outerwear and footwear. the scenario that i suggested was only of an perfect situation where a big company sees interest in preserving something for good. adidas got out before they got to deep and kinda realized it is not their place to be.
As for nike joining the snowboard phenomenon, they all know how fast the sport is growing and cant resist. if they do it well and properly, which would include developing themselves from the ground up with a good r&d team, be rider focused and build quality and not mass quantity it will take the sport to new highs… if they exploit the sport and are looking for another way to build global dominance then they should take no part…
so how would they take the sport to new heights? what does that mean?
Realistically when it comes to quik own dc and things that doesn’t really matter, did you know nike own converse? The companies although they are owned by a larger company are kept very seperate and have their own mission statements and objectives.
Nike have a lot of money. I can see them putting in double what every other snowboard company does.
as for the comment about new balance… they actually did have snowboard boots reciently i think they were a colab with one of the other “core” companies.
As for nike and the boot tech. Most the technical features companies come up with a just gymics so they can charge you another $50 for a pair of boots. Realistically if nike boots are running heat mould liners and the feature that reduces footprint size from like 11-10 or 10-9 etc they are good boots. maybe some BOA as well as long as they dont break.
nike will never use Boa. Nike doesn’t license tech from others.
nike is great at fooling people they put a bunch of money into R&D, just like oakley fools people that their lens are so superior, there are a million examples at its just marketing.
NB is colaborating with 686 for one season only, the boots weigh about 10 pounds each and won’t be taken seriously by anyone other than sneakerheads, it doesn’t take away from my point at all, NB will never be embraced by the shred community just like doc martins or hsh puppies wouldn’t be.
This seems to be a very deep yet touchy subject. I will be straight, myself i haven’t liked nike for as long as i can remember. But with all the companies coming into snowboarding or skate for that matter. What difference is there whether it be nike or someone else. I understand the fact that its a big company but as mentioned so many times some smaller companies are owned by bigger companies.
It will come down to us the riders/consumers to how well nike do or not. I believe firmly in a good boot fit if the boot fits that’s what i will sell. I do prefer to sell more snow specific brands. But these days its so hard to know where the cash actually ends up.
So in conclusion I’m going to say support who you love in this sport and buy what you feel is right. We all have an opinion and we are all going to clash somewhere.
I personally don’t like Nike as their shoes always seem to rip up quite fast. That’s runners and casual shoes.
When it comes to snowboard boots with different materials and possibly different material and quality standards
their gear might be great.
It always makes me laugh when this topic comes up in regards to whats core and what isnt….. I noticed alot of people hitting up Quiksilver say its a surf brand yet if you look at their logo its a wave with a mountain its been that way from way back….quik has been committed to the snow scene from day 1… Brands such as DC, Gnu , lib are indeed owned by quik but its a cut throat industry out there and people need to go to the bigger companies to survive or expand.
In regards to nike they seem to have a solid team, the boots look the part but time will tell because if the product isnt up to scratch people wont buy them. lets not forget that bobby meeks is the man running the show for nike snowboarding….you cant get a better track record than that. Watch any of his robot food parts to see what i mean, and before someone says “he rode for k2 and k2 is a ski brand” lets not forget that k2 owns ride snowboards.
so being a good snowboarder qualifies you to run a boot program? how do you figure?
lets not forget that jarden crock pot company owns k2 which owns ride. not sure where you were going with that.
So what you’d prefer some nobody running a company? All I’m saying is that if Bobby Meeks is running the show it cant be all bad…he’s been around for ages so im sure he would steer the brand into a positive direction.
And the point i was making was that who cares who owns who….because theres always a bigger corp behind it…even the “rider” owned brands need backing from some where, whether its from a big ass bank, a jap car company, daddy….you think the average johnny sponsored rider can afford to start a “core” company from his jib comp winnings? and if he is making the coin needed in sure he’d be on a good contract sum and smart enough to stay where the money is.
Why do you think Andreas left Omatic? Cause it takes alot of coin to run a brand, plus he’s in his salad days so hes gonna make the most money possible while he can.
Vans is owned by a corp that owns wrangler and shit…what is vans not core now?.....so i dont know what point your making.
What “core” brand do you run with? Probs Burton or rome….