Name the break
We are all well on top of that K2. 
Deebs I’m not all that keen on Wollongong City, or the immediate surrounds. I’m affectionate to anywhere north of Bulli Pass to Stanwell Park.
I hate cities :full stop: Thredbo is my home town, I grew up in a village with 20 houses.
So how does the 10K population of Avalon and the area it covers relate to a city?
Or Pittwater’s 50K residence? The Northern Beaches are not a city, by your standards or any standard. That’s “check” mate your move.
From NBG last break to name post so our game of verbal chess doesn’t get to in the way of this thread.
Anyways here’s another to have a crack at.
Another couple of pics
An aerial view of the place, pay particular attention to the scale.
We are all well on top of that K2.
Deebs I’m not all that keen on Wollongong City, or the immediate surrounds. I’m affectionate to anywhere north of Bulli Pass to Stanwell Park.I hate cities :full stop: Thredbo is my home town, I grew up in a village with 20 houses.
So how does the 10K population of Avalon and the area it covers relate to a city?
Or Pittwater’s 50K residence? The Northern Beaches are not a city, by your standards or any standard. That’s “check” mate
What? Not sure what you’re getting at mate. Pittwater is considered a part of Sydney much like Corrimal or Bulli is considered part of Wollongong.
Your rationale was that as Wollongong has a large population it is considered a city and therefore my statement about Sydney being the only major city worth living in for surfing was incorrect. Your counter argument was that Wollongong is actually Australia’s third largest city by population. In return my point was that if you throw a large enough net you can make anywhere the largest city when you go by population alone.
My contention is that population alone does not a city make and in reality Wollongong is a town with a rather small CBD in comparison to some other areas I named such as Chatswood and Parramatta, far more deserving of the title city IMO due to the CBD size, population, workforce etc etc.
With that in mind my point still stands that Sydney is the only major city that’s worth living in if you surf, I feel the above has disproved the notion that rating a city size based on population alone is not relevant and therefor Wollongong isn’t even in the running. For that matter neither is Newcastle or Coffs Harbour.
Well I had to cheat. Google earth says umina or ettalong or broken bay.theyr e all in the same bay but no idea what the wave is called. Anyone know the wave off that info?
I for one am enjoying the side game of chess going on here.
Deebs how did you get that from Google Earth? Did you just search through the entire Central Coast to find this? Holy hell you’re a keen bean! The side game of chess is amusing.
Hahaha. No it was easy after the avoca tip. It stood out like dogs balls so I just zoomed in.
Have another go as I feel cheap and dirty like manila street walker.
There’s not too many places anywhere you can catch a wave for over 1km. It doesn’t happen all tat often to be honest that it’s makeable or even worth riding. I have been with a mate on a boat with SUP racing boards when it’s been 1-2ft and it’s hilarious surfing a 12’6” for 2-300m on a tiny wave, makes the paddle back out easier as well.
I have surfed it pretty decent a few times but it’s really really fickle with tide and swell and wind. There was an amazing picture of it years ago in ASL I think and an interview with Luke Egan who surfed it for 6 hours with a mate and they never saw each other the whole surf.
Ha!
I just opened Google earth to do the same thing! Glad I opened this thread before putting the time in.
Did you drop a hint about the length of the ride NBG? I was going to start looking along the open coast. With that hint I would have straight up guessed Umina, the only other place I know is Bundeena with a 1km wave.
I did say pay particular attention to the scale on the google earth style shot I put up.
chess
The main flaw I can see in your argument is that you narrowed down W’gong population without including the outer suburbs, as you said Bulli etc is part of w’gong it makes the population almost 300K not 20K (as I think you said).
Sydney population of 4.6mil is taken from this area.
Oh, look…............ there’s Wollongong ^
Take a good look at were each cities border is, I’ll come back to that.
Since you had narrowed Wollongong down to it’s CBD I did the same for Sydney by excluding Avalon it from it.
It seems your shifting the goal post to suit your point.
W’gong meets every criteria to be classed a city in even the strictest meaning of the word in any country (except for your personal definition NBG-you may want to revise what you deem a city for the sake of communication and understanding with other people).
W’gong has a Cathedral, is self sufficient, has financial infrastructure, a federal court house and has even been given a Royal Charter in the Commonwealth (the strictest criteria for being known a commonwealth city often overlooked by other places calling themselves “city”). The simple fact that you include the suburbs of W’gong also gives it criteria as a city (a city must have suburban allocation of land).
It’s recognised by the Church, State, Country and Commonwealth as a city - not a town (but not by NBG?)
The Royal National Park is within Wollongong’s border and meets Sydney’s border - not just touches but they spill into one another makes both Sydney and Wollongong a Megapolis, not a city.
So indeed you are right NBG W’gong is not a city - it’s much more than a city, it’s a Megapolis.
In federal council it is called Wollongong City Council (WCC).
Campbelltown, Parramatta, Sydney etc are all considered Cities (CCC, PCC, SCC)
Parramatta was once considered as the capital of Aust. The primary infrastructure of of our Government and buidings began there. It is the first City of the colony.
To really dumb it down;
To be considered a town a place needs basic facilities and a boundary (like a police force, church and school and a fence line surrounding it - historically to be a town it needed fortification).
A village is a group of houses independent from a town or city with minimal facilities (a post office and general store is ok), but villagers would require travel to a town or city for schooling, church and substancial purchases).
A city, in it’s simplest definition, is a big town with a central business district were businesses and people can exchange goods and mingle in the same area.
With that sorted I say; “check mate” and ask you to concede.
Unless your going to argue that W’gong doesn’t have surf nearby? 
Spaz, name one person in the whole of Australia who thinks that employment opportunities are better in Wollongong than in Sydney? perhaps I should have framed my argument better but a city to live, work and surf in within a corporate environment pertains in particular to me and a great deal of my friends and family. Many many people cannot live anywhere else and maintain the income and lifestyle they desire in smaller “cities” like Wollongong and Newcastle. God help both of them when coal and steel mining and manufacturing die.
I will elaborate on why I still feel that Sydney is the only city where being a surfer it makes sense to live and work, unfortunately right now I have to work.
By the way I never narrowed Wollongong down to it’s CBD, I merely pointed out that if other CBD’s were blown out to the size of Wollongongs population catchment area they would be vastly larger. It’s not an apples to apples comparison, a more accurate description would be to say the greater Wollongong area which is primarily what it is, a city council that presides over a CBD as well as vast surrounding area. Personally I think that sustained population density is really what binds a city together, suburb by suburb like Sydney is from Cronulla in the south to Palm Beach in the North to Richmond, Penrith and Campbleltown as it’s outer extremities in the West.
Maybe uminas twin. Fickle and sand moves around. The point used to be like this before the sand shift.
From the latest sw magazine
Rainbow Beach!!!!!
Have a go at this shot of the joint, I would be happy to surf the right behind the headland before it swings onto the beach proper. My god I’m frothing just looking at that.
