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Other than finally getting that ^^^^ off my chest.

Good morning boardworldians!!!!

It was 1? outside an hour ago and feels even colder now, I’m going to check the temp again.

 
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I’m feeling pretty sick today, sore throat, runny nose, the usual symptoms… I’m taking the day off riding.  sick

OBL was the leader of a terrorist organisation responsible for many cowardly terrorist acts around the world. Just because he exploited others and had them doing his bidding for him, doesn’t mean he isn’t responsible. OBL had to be brought to justice, whether that meant capture and trial, or a bullet to his head.

“We call on every Muslim who believes in God and wishes to be rewarded to comply with God’s order to kill the Americans and plunder their money wherever and whenever they find it. We also call on Muslim ulema, leaders, youths, and soldiers to launch the raid on Satan’s U.S. troops and the devil’s supporters allying with them.” -Osama Bin Laden.

I’m not in any way trying to justify war. However, OBL is personally responsible for the murder of thousands of innocent people. The hunt for OBL and his eventual demise is justified though. Good riddance I say…

 
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Mizu Kuma - 06 May 2011 12:40 AM

If he wanted a fair trial, then he should’ve handed himself over to the UN maybe????

We all know that would have never happened. There’s no way Osama Bin Laden would have let himself be taken alive by US troops. He wanted to die as a ‘martyr’ and he’s been quoted as saying so many times.

Let’s not forget OBL was a fugitive and terrorist long before 911. Who’s to say he wouldn’t have gone on to commit more terrorist acts on innocent civilians if he wasn’t hunted down?

 
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cords - 06 May 2011 09:24 AM

what difference does it make? if someone shoots 25 people in a shop, admits it and then is caught on the run - they still get arrested and have a trial & go to jail. We have a system like that so that people don’t just go around doing vigilante killings (boondock saints style!). Can you think about how many bogan americans with guns will probably kill people in revenge because popular opinion says they are guilty??
I know heaps of innocent people died in 9/11, but the US is a hundred times worse for going over to Afghanistan and killing tens and tens of thousands of innocent civilians (maybe even hundreds of thousands? I’m not sure). Two wrongs don’t make a right. Killing Osama makes a martyr out of him and now there will be heaps of others taking up the cause in his name.

If the person that has shot the 25 people has the potential to Kill more, would you justify his death if the Police, in their efforts to apprehend him, shot and killed the guy???

And then, if the fugitive was found to have no weapon on him at the time, proceed to charge the Officer responsible for the shooting of said criminal, and for the officer to be prosecuted for his actions??? This officer is no Vigilante Bogan!!!! He would more than likely be someone like us, with or starting a family, had just gone to work like any other day not expecting a scenario like that to happen!!!! Then because some sick and twisted lunatic wants to open fire on people that have done absolutely nothing to him, the Police officer has to deal with this nightmare for the rest of his life!!!!! Yet peoples first reaction is sorrow for the “unarmed” man that was up against the brutality of the Government!!!! Sorry but I just don’t get it!!!!

The old “Americans kill more civilians when they occupy a country, in order to get wealthy”, bit is more paranoid do-gooder clap trap IMHO!!!!!

The only reason that they are there in these countries are because they are out of control and are killin their own people by the thousands!!!!

Thousand of innocent people were killed in WWII, and this was started by a man that had lost the plot also!!!! Should the Allied Forces not have stopped Hitler???? Maybe we should have asked him politely to stop invading countries, and persecuting people of other religions, and duck on down to the local courthouse for a fair trial????

Like I said before, I think that the USA chant was disgusting, but I definitely don’t shed a tear for Bin Laden!!!!

Live By The Sword, Die By The Sword!!!!

As in all good debates, that was my closing argument, and I now hand over the floor to the Negative!!!!!

(I have to be the Affirmative yeah???? Unless I get another rebuttal!!!!! I never did Debating in HS!!!!)

 
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rider26 - 06 May 2011 09:04 PM
Mizu Kuma - 06 May 2011 12:40 AM

If he wanted a fair trial, then he should’ve handed himself over to the UN maybe????

We all know that would have never happened. There’s no way Osama Bin Laden would have let himself be taken alive by US troops. He wanted to die as a ‘martyr’ and he’s been quoted as saying so many times.

Let’s not forget OBL was a fugitive and terrorist long before 911. Who’s to say he wouldn’t have gone on to commit more terrorist acts on innocent civilians if he wasn’t hunted down?

That was Guaranteed!!!! I am not a gambler and yet I would’ve had money on that one!!!!

 
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Terrorism will continue with or without him.

The Catholic church and it’s leader are directly responsible for billions of deaths over centuries, they do it under the guise of religious enterprise - there is little difference. Both are murderers forcing an opinion on people through cleaver manipulation.

I believe we are not to judge anyone for their actions. 


HISTORY IS WRITTEN BY THE VICTORS - written history is not the truth.

 
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I agree the place is be better without him. I worry about the law of nature. Someone will fill his shoes.

 
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shred

 
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All good spaz, we’re all good people and we’re all entitled to our opinions. smile

Is it snowing yet?  raspberry

 
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spaz - 07 May 2011 02:33 AM

I’m walking away now, we are all friends here.

I agree the place is be better without him. I worry about the law of nature. Someone will fill his shoes.

Of course we are all friends!!!!! Friends can debate something rationally and have very differing opinions from each other!!!!!

Doesn’t make any one of us right!!!!! If we were all perfect then everyone would be approaching 7000 posts like me!!!!  tongue laugh

And I feel that the best way to handle his “replacement”, is to be ready to do the same to him/her!!!!! Before they can wreak the havoc that Bin Laden caused!!!!

(I also agree with your Catholic Church analogy to some degree spaz!!!!! In the past the Churches and their Leaders of ALL FAITHS, have bought more misery than good on the face of this planet!!!! But I don’t think that this is the case with the current leaders of “Mainstream” religions these days!!!!! I am by the way an “Atheist” myself!!!!)

 
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rider26 - 07 May 2011 03:08 AM

we’re all good people and we’re all entitled to our opinions. smile

Is it snowing yet?  raspberry

Not when ya go askin us if it’s snowin yet!!!!! Ya know that we haven’t seen any white stuff for months down here!!!!!  hmmm

 
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Apparently it will be snowing tomorrow!!!!

 
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feels cold enough here right now! Bloody freezing. Spent the day sitting infront of the fire

 
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Brrrrrr woke to a -4 temp this morning. We have had a few -3 and -4 mornings already.