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No one has mentioned, it also really depends on the profile and board construction as well as what do you want to do with your board.
90% rider 10% board.
But sure, if its your first board then its important to try and get the right board for you.
Yes, yes, yes.
Some good and differing points of view in here - great discussion as grunge has said. Thanks for the reasoning Jez and yeah I dont think Id go much shorter than 152 for anything other than a laugh so I dont think Im at risk of suffering from shortboard-itis. Just out of curiosity, for those of you still playing, if you were 178cm and 75kg would you get a 153 flat kick (like Rhys described) or a 155?
^ Personally, 153 if I think I’m going to spend more time at the park, otherwise 155 if I’m going more freeride.
My aviator would’ve gone to 162 if it was there, but there was only 160 sizing so I took that.
Yes, yes, yes.
Some good and differing points of view in here - great discussion as grunge has said. Thanks for the reasoning Jez and yeah I dont think Id go much shorter than 152 for anything other than a laugh so I dont think Im at risk of suffering from shortboard-itis. Just out of curiosity, for those of you still playing, if you were 178cm and 75kg would you get a 153 flat kick (like Rhys described) or a 155?
It depends on how and where you want to ride it. It also depends on the type of 155 you’re talking about. Personal preference will also come into play. Either could work.
Although Jez does make some good points are we denouncing the riding of all short boards general so this include the riding of boards with sidecuts and profiles that are meant to emulate a regular length board like the burton nug or the yes 420??
If we are then im a sufferer of short boarditis and im not really looking for a cure as i own and love riding both even if thats detrimental to my riding progression. BUT everyone is entitled to their opinion and therefor also what they want to ride
^ Quite sure that I don’t think that’s what Jez meant.
I know I’m just generalizing based on what was told to me when I was on the lookout for my first board, and something I’ve noticed all around. “Go shorter it’ll make it easier.”
I did go short but only because I wanted a certain graphic plus the longer version wasn’t available at the time.
That said I’m currently considering my option on a shorter 0 camber rockered board to play around with, like an ultrafear 153. For someone of my weight, that’s WAY short, I think… lol.
Although Jez does make some good points are we denouncing the riding of all short boards general so this include the riding of boards with sidecuts and profiles that are meant to emulate a regular length board like the burton nug or the yes 420??
If we are then im a sufferer of short boarditis and im not really looking for a cure as i own and love riding both even if thats detrimental to my riding progression. BUT everyone is entitled to their opinion and therefor also what they want to ride
Nup, wasn’t referring to boards like that at all. It was a general statement about the trend of riding unnecessarily short boards. Everything I’m talking about is in reference to a lack of stability/float etc., and as you know, the 420, 20/20, Nug etc., more than make up for their short size through innovative shape and profile. Boards like those mentioned are purposely designed to be ridden significantly shorter than a regular board. Take what I said as a general statement, nothing specific.
I think it’s important to review a few points:
Everyone has a range of board sizes they can comfortably ride. Each end of the spectrum will have advantages and disadvantages. Towards the middle of the range will be versatile in a variety of conditions/situations.
The type of board; shape, profile, flex, etc., will often greatly affect what this rideable size range is for each person. Each board is different, but the same theory applies — all that changes is the actual sizes in the range.
Riding style, riding ability, and location/conditions will also affect the size range. For example: park riding generally requires a shorter board (for manoeuvrability), freeriding generally requires a longer board (for stability).
The problem only arises when you step outside the suitable size range for your weight for any particular snowboard. We’re talking extreme ends of the scale here. If you are sacrificing too much stability for the sake of manoeuvrability, you are going to lose performance (stability, edging, float, energy/pop). If you are stepping outside what is considered the suitable size range for your weight vs the particular board, you need to ask yourself why — and there are valid answers. But you really need to think about it and weigh up the pros and cons. I’ve seen a general trend which I’ve mostly witnessed amongst females, of riding boards that are unnecessarily short, and I feel in the long run it’s not doing them any favours.
Feel free to shoot through more questions / keep this thread going. It’s an interesting one for sure.
Skip, cheers for the semi-compliment haha.
For sure there have been days this season where I though I was going to hang in the park and turned out to be a 10cm pow day haha and yep i rode that on a 147 and I was dying and my front binding kept coming undone and i couldn’t keep the nose up. those were the days! lol anyways you’re right, i ride my weapon way more than my other board - ideally i’d have three, pow, park, groomers i’m just waiting till boardworld sponsors me when i go pro cough*bullshit*cough.
enjoy the ride people.
Rhys, I think the highlight of my season was watching you cartwheel down that face on the powder day we were all riding together. I remember thinking, “wait for it… wait for it…” then, BAM!
I remember that very well Jez haha.
Now that was snowboarding!
Good topic! I’m 181cm / 95-100kg and really struggled with my new 157 Skunk Ape last season. I was falling for some really rookie stacks, edge catches etc. Felt like my riding had gone completely backwards. Although the boardshop guy told me it would be fine I’ve felt that it’s really, really chattery and not at all steady for my weight. Kind of like a hippo on a unicycle. Plus it could also be down to the camber profile, catchy as anything.
Now I’m just waiting to get the Mountain Twin 161W out there for a good thrash and see how that goes, with the combo of rocker tip and more length. Look forward to reporting back in the next few weeks!
Thanks for the feedback, Hughman666.
I’m looking forward to hearing your thoughts on the Mtn Twin 161W. I think it’s going to be a huge difference to what you’ve been riding!
The CamRock Profile of ya Jones will shit on the horrible C2 of ya Lib!!!!!
Have to disagree on that. I like the C2 on my Lando. Don’t be a hater mr. bear.
EDIT: However, my C2 profile doesn’t teeter totter (contact points are touching the ground).