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Hi Guy’s
I’m in the market for a new board and not sure what to get. I’ve been riding my Ride Havoc for the last 7-8 years and been pretty happy with it. Some friends have suggested Lib Tech Attack and Skate Banana, but I don’t want to just throw money at something and find out it’s no good for me. I don’t get to the snow multiple times per year so it makes demoing boards a little hard to figure one out. I’m a tick over six foot and 95-100 kegs and I would say intermediate to advance rider. We usually ride Perisher,Thredbo or Hotham and just finished a Japan trip which I will definitely be heading back to next year. Predominately an all mountain rider who doesn’t mind doing the moguls during the day along with the odd box and table top jump, but by no means a park addict. Any advice would be great, thanks
New boards are coming out soon. You might want to have a look at them before deciding or you could pick up last years model cheaper. It’s very hard to find a one board fits all scenario. People like different feels of board just like surfing. You need to narrow down what setup you want to go for and type of design, it’s good to look at what you have been using.It sounds like you would be better off riding another all mountain board if you like the taste of every thing.
Only addition we should know from your original message is what size boots you have. (Do you need a wide board?)
Personally the magnetraction in the Lib boards was a hinderance to me, slowing me down compared to other boards. Lib boards also tend to retail on the higher end of the spectrum meaning you’re out >800 bucks compared to a lot of similar boards in the 600-800 range which are similar.
That being said, from your initial post, I’d go the attack banana over the skate banana as you’re not really a park rat so the stiffer board would be way better.
It does however feel like your friend is a fan of the Lib so to throw some other all mountain options out there, maybe look at some of the following. Anywhere from 156 - 161 would probably suit. I’m same height but about 15kg lower than you and ride a 154. So with Aus and Japan in mind, I’d aim for a 158 or 159 to be playful but still float enough in powder.
Burton Custom (Flying V if you prefer Rocker): Burton is known for their snowboards like Hoover for their Vacuums, Kleenex for their tissues or Coke for their black poison drink. They don’t get their name for nothing and this is probably their best selling all mountain board. Having ridden one, I’d buy one if it wasn’t for their channel system which I’m not a fan of.
DC PLY: Torstein rode one of these, few members on here have also raved about them. The new graphics look sweet and they are probably more on the cheaper side. Only come in reg camber though so less float in powder and more on the park side of things. Have tested a DC PLY years ago and it was 2nd in the running for the board I was going to buy.
K2 Turbo Dream: K2 has been in the industry for a while and have some great boards. Never heard a complaint about any of them though I’ve not had the chance to demo.
Neversummer Evo: Another brand with a cult following. Great all mountain boards that float well in pow but also can tear it up on the groomers or in the park. Does tend to be on the pricey side though. Have ridden Dan’s one before and did like it though I would have dulled the edges a bit more lol.
Yes Standard (or Greats or Basic) We all have a bit of a soft spot for YES boards around here and there is a pretty good reason why. The cam-rock profile is great, gives you good float and still good pop. Can kill the park and never caused me issues. I just put some money down for the new jackpot (but I like my boards a bit more parky)
Burton Custom (Flying V if you prefer Rocker): Burton is known for their snowboards like Hoover for their Vacuums, Kleenex for their tissues or Coke for their black poison drink. They don’t get their name for nothing and this is probably their best selling all mountain board. Having ridden one, I’d buy one if it wasn’t for their channel system which I’m not a fan of.
My girl rides this and has used it in the alps for many years. They are worth looking in to if you want that all round style.
Hi Guy’s
I’m in the market for a new board and not sure what to get. I’ve been riding my Ride Havoc for the last 7-8 years and been pretty happy with it. Some friends have suggested Lib Tech Attack and Skate Banana, but I don’t want to just throw money at something and find out it’s no good for me. I don’t get to the snow multiple times per year so it makes demoing boards a little hard to figure one out. I’m a tick over six foot and 95-100 kegs and I would say intermediate to advance rider. We usually ride Perisher,Thredbo or Hotham and just finished a Japan trip which I will definitely be heading back to next year. Predominately an all mountain rider who doesn’t mind doing the moguls during the day along with the odd box and table top jump, but by no means a park addict. Any advice would be great, thanks
Welcome to Boardworld, mark41.
You’re absolutely right. You need to work out (with our help) which board will be most suitable for your riding style and future riding needs. A few questions that need answering before we can suggest anything in particular:
What size boots do you wear? Which brand and model? (they all have different volumes/footprints etc.)
Do you ride much switch? Do you plan on developing your freestyle skills further?
Have you thought about which camber profile you’d want to ride? In my opinion, this is the first thing you should narrow down. It can be very confusing so I wrote this article to help break it down. Please have a read and let us know which profile(s) appeals to your current and future needs the most: https://www.boardworld.com.au/forums/viewthread/4119
It definitely sounds like you want versatility, as you ride everything from Australia to Japan, and all-mountain to a bit of park. I certainly have some ideas but I’d like to hear back from you on those questions before I make any suggestions. Hit us back and we can go from there!
Hi Guy’s
Thanks for the advice, here’s a few more details for you as needed.
My boots are a size 11 Nitro Anthem’s
I’ve started riding switch more over the last couple of years, not for any great distance more for a bit of fun on the flatter sections of the hill. Would definitely like to develop it more though and carry it through to launching and landing table tops, as I had a lot of fun with it in Japan the last week and a half.
With freestyle I would like to be able to grind a rail or box when I come across them during the day, but not really into spending hours on them.
With regards to a preferred camber, I must admit I’ve never got into the tech side of the shape of boards. Generally I’ve just gone off what was recommended to me by the guy in the shop. In saying that, after reading your article(which was very informative and helpful) I think a Hybrid Type A would suit me better(feel free to offer your thoughts otherwise).
Hope this is helpful, thanks in advance.
Check the Burton Custom Flying V or the Yes Standard / Jackpot for that kind of profile. I got it and love it. You’d need a waist width of 254 or so with your 11 boots so the Burton Custom 158 or the Yes Jackpot 156 or 158 would likely suit very nicely.
If you like C2 type hybrid camber, I recommend Lib Tech T.Rice for a bit stiffer ride, TRS for a middle of the road flex, or the Attack Banana for a bit more playful. Never Summer Proto or Snowtrooper would be a good all around board too also with Hybrid A profile. The longer sizes of Lib’s board has more of a midwide waist width especially the T.Rice.
For sizing, since you’re 90-100kg I would go a bit bigger 161cm or above, unless you’re riding park. Just for reference I weigh 65kg and ride 154 most of the time. You can go smaller like TJswish said, but if you rarely to the park I’d say go for the bigger size.
As TJswish said above, for waist width you can get away with 254mm if you’re not carving hard. I personally prefer 248-250mm for my size 9 boots (which has a size 8 footprint).
Yeah sorry I forgot he was 90-100. I’d probably stick with 158-161 range. (158 for park, 160 for all mountain, 161 or 163 for hard riding / bombing hills)
Check the Burton Custom Flying V or the Yes Standard / Jackpot for that kind of profile. I got it and love it. You’d need a waist width of 254 or so with your 11 boots so the Burton Custom 158 or the Yes Jackpot 156 or 158 would likely suit very nicely.
Those boards have very different profiles. Flying V vs CamRock.
I’m going to give some honest feedback on the Burton Custom Flying V (I tested the 2016 model at SIA) and it was poo. I’ve always been a fan of the regular camber Custom (I’ve owned a couple in my time), but I really dislike the Flying V profile. It was my least favourite board/profile out of everything I tested. Very unpredictable, doesn’t carve well (compared to other boards), and quite catchy to be honest.
I’m going to throw another suggestion out there…
Rome Agent Rocker (2016 model coming in a matter of days). This board has the Hybrid Type A profile… rocker between the feet, camber under the feet… and it rides like a BOSS. Definitely the best Type A profile I’ve ever ridden. Super playful and versatile, carves great, lots of pop, incredible energy. They tweaked the profile to make it more mellow (the contact points actually touch the snow when unweighted).This was one of the best boards I tested. Right up there with the YES Greats and YES Optimistic, and comes with a very strong recommendation from me.
Otherwise, you can’t go wrong with CamRock (Type B profile) as TJ suggested. YES makes awesome boards and the only to come with a lifetime warranty. CamRock is my preferred hybrid profile for many reasons.
Here’s a lovely photo of me holding the 2016 Rome Agent Rocker. It’s seriously an awesome board!
But Agent Rocker is more like C3 tho Jez. Camber dominant right? with suspended rocker in the middle?
Yes Standard (or Greats or Basic) We all have a bit of a soft spot for YES boards around here and there is a pretty good reason why. The cam-rock profile is great, gives you good float and still good pop. Can kill the park and never caused me issues. I just put some money down for the new jackpot (but I like my boards a bit more parky)
What’s it like in the powder?
You get enough float or does it nose?
Hi Guy’s
Thanks heaps for all your feed back, I really appreciate the help. I would prefer to steer away from Burton boards, I’m just not that rapt with there binding setup. Never had a bad experience with it but it just doesn’t grab me.
I went with the Hybrid Type A camber as I took from reading the article that the Type B profile would more easily wash out on me when bombing hills or hitting moguls, please correct me if I’m wrong as I was pretty keen on that profile as well.
The Rome board does look killer and you sound like you had a great time on it, what size would you recommend for it 159-162.
If my assumption on the type B Hybrid was wrong what would you suggest for a couple of options to read up on for a possible purchase.
Thanks again for your replies.
^ Yeah.. that agent rocker seems pretty awesome.
I’ve got a ‘12 agent rocker myself and it’s a little more rockered than I’d like but it’s good enough for me to go edge to edge. I think the softer rockered middle would do alot better, at least from my POV. looks like you’re pretty good in the direction you’re going at.
Let us know what you get and don’t forget Jez can help hook you up! =)
^ Yeah.. that agent rocker seems pretty awesome.
I’ve got a ‘12 agent rocker myself and it’s a little more rockered than I’d like but it’s good enough for me to go edge to edge. I think the softer rockered middle would do alot better, at least from my POV. looks like you’re pretty good in the direction you’re going at.
Let us know what you get and don’t forget Jez can help hook you up! =)
Yes Standard (or Greats or Basic) We all have a bit of a soft spot for YES boards around here and there is a pretty good reason why. The cam-rock profile is great, gives you good float and still good pop. Can kill the park and never caused me issues. I just put some money down for the new jackpot (but I like my boards a bit more parky)
What’s it like in the powder?
You get enough float or does it nose?
It’s not a powder board but it’s fine. I ride my boards a lot smaller than I should though so that doesn’t help either. The Rocker on the tip and tail really help but it wouldn’t hurt to set it back a few cm if you can spare the room on the board (your bindings aren’t on the last holes)