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Cheers bro! was frothing when I got the first one.

Im coming in regular ollie 180 to butter to 360.
So pprobably works out the same.

Maybe the ollie 180s helping me spin the 360 as im already wound up for the spin back to regular.

 
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Yep, it would just be a momentum thing.

You obviously have all the parts there to make it happen. Just sounds like you need more momentum/airtime… more speed and pre-wind/unwind will make it happen.

Also, try spinning cab off the nose. So, you’re riding switch… as you are about to pop, put pressure onto the nose (switch) and pop from there. As seen in the video below. Super smooth and the easiest way to do it.

^^ And while I agree with Nev technically on the different between cab and switch FS, all switch frontside spins are referred to as cab in snowboarding, including in contests etc — so I think it’s acceptable to call all switch frontside spins as cab. I think he was just trying to highlight the difference in technique for the purpose of the tutorial.

 
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I didnt know that nose pressure/fakie ollie was the correct initiation to a cab trick, and while your right saying all sw front spins are named cab regardless, Im glad I know and really want to style mine like Nev’s cause they look sick smirk

 
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I agree. That’s how I always spin cab unless I’m hitting a kicker.

 
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rider26 - 17 June 2014 06:17 PM

I often learn tricks by doing them by accident the first time. LOL

This is how I first did a back board to fakie - safe to say was a fluke.. Once I had a feel though it’s been easier to pick it up now!

 
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Looking for some advice for spins on and off of rails. What tricks did you guys start with? Ive got back 1s out of some features but thats about it. Looking to try and add a few more before the end of the season and looking for ones that you guys might have picked up quicker than others? Give me some tipss!!  metal

 
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Can you spin on and off boxes? That’s your training ground. Start on boxes, progress to harder boxes, then you can try on rails.

I’d try with simple rotations first. You say you have bs 180s out, but does that mean you’re doing a 50-50, then doing a bs 180 off the rail?

If so, try evening out the rotation, so you’re doing the 180 slowly and consistently from the start of the rail till the end of the rail. I think you need to get the feel for rotating on the actual feature.

I think the best starting points are both frontside and backside boardslides to fakie. Try both ways. Be smooth with the the trick, not rushing it around.

Once you get the hang of that, tricks like frontside boardslide to 270 out will become more naturally—because you have the ability to actually rotate on the rail. It helps a lot with the momentum of the trick.

Personally, I used to love spinning cab 270 onto features. I’m a bit out of practice and it’s one of my goals to get back into it. I used to ride a lot of rails but I’ve shied away in recent times due to injuries not having my mental game sorted… but it’s slowly coming back and I will be working on it more.

 
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Down - BS 180, 360 and 540s. Cab FS 180.

All thru leighcart second jump.  20-30ft maybe?

Still yet to attempt getting upside down..
Still yet to go thru Front Valley park..

What’s people’s first flip trick been?

 
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Yeah, can front 1 on to semi-wide boxes and back 1 out. Can also 3 spin over a dance floor feature. But as far as rail features go, just 50-50 to back 1s out off flat rails is as far as I’ve got. Will definitely look at boards to fakie and see how I go!

Congrats on the back 5s in leichardt Matty!! Yeww punch

 
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mattyp - 14 August 2014 06:42 PM

Down - BS 180, 360 and 540s. Cab FS 180.

All thru leighcart second jump.  20-30ft maybe?

Still yet to attempt getting upside down..
Still yet to go thru Front Valley park..

What’s people’s first flip trick been?

That’s awesome mattyp.  I like the way you’ve saved them up for one big ejaculation on the boards. (yeah i said it).
Seriously though, back 1s and 5s are two of the most satisfying tricks to stomp in my opinion.  Are you sticking in some grabs with them and if so which ones? 
One thing I love about back 5s was that you can adjust how you throw them on the lip and change the amount of cork and they always seem to come around nicely.  I don’t think when I did them it was a very scientific process, I kinda found on really steep takeoffs it was hard not to get quite corked, but as I say you can feel where you are in the air and they always seem to come around.

I’ll leave you to the half cabs, I never did those on medium park jumps always fearing the over rotate to visual stars manoeuvre. I would highly recommend you try some cab 3 tails though, such a fun trick.

On the first flip trick.  I did a really ugly backflip combined with a frontside 180 (this probably has a more catchy name) and was thrilled!  The next week one of my friends also called Matt did a backflip combined with a front 3 and locked in a solid grab, he wasn’t great at the whole turning left and right game so where he pulled that one from I’ll never know.  Still Props Matt if by some weird chance you’re reading.

 
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tracvks - 17 August 2014 03:46 PM

Yeah, can front 1 on to semi-wide boxes and back 1 out. Can also 3 spin over a dance floor feature. But as far as rail features go, just 50-50 to back 1s out off flat rails is as far as I’ve got. Will definitely look at boards to fakie and see how I go!

Congrats on the back 5s in leichardt Matty!! Yeww punch

There are a few ways to go with this.

If you can already do a trick say front 1 on to a box, just try to add bits to it.  For example can you do front ones on off your heel and toe edges (i.e. setting yourself up to do both frontside and backside tricks on a street style feature).  If you’re ok with those try landing in a press on the box.  My tip for this would be to try and subtly take off from the opposite leg you’re going to be pressing on.  For example a really fun trick is the frontside 180 (or half cab) off the toe edge to nosepress (that is you’re pressing on the part of the board that is furthest down the feature once you land on the feature), I find the springing off your leading leg for the 180 makes it much easier to land in a press on the other leg.  For an example of this try going from nose to tail press while on a flat section of green run and then try going from one type of press to pop to land in the same type of press, it’s harder.

If you want to get a bit tecky try a helgason’s style trick.  On a downbox do switch frontside 180 ollieing off the tail of the board to land in nosepress (ie. the same part of the board you just ollied off).  This trick doesn’t have to be started switch but i’d suggest it’s easier.

Anyways just a few ideas on how to push on from doing frontside 180s onto features.  I always learnt tricks pretty well on snow first (and the mirror image switch version at the same time (as best I could) before trying them on the metal.

Hope that’s some help.

 
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Still not a fan of rails and boxes but I understand the technicality of it and appreciate it to some degree I’m just not interested in it myself. As far as my riding this year is concerned I finally twigged to the idea that spinning front off the toes is a better idea for me. For whatever reason spinning front three off the heels was a bit of a lottery with over rotation, tail heavy landings, reverts and arse sits being a fairly common occurrence. Off the toes just works for some reason and I don’t think I have fallen once since doing them that way, feels smoother and more controlled as well, bit of the credit for that might go to all the visits to flip out adding to my aerial balance. Suffice to say I’m pretty happy about it, just want to add an Indy or mute grab and I’ll have ticked a big goal off for my snowboarding.

I think I might have a crack at cab 5 this weekend in blue cow park as well, for whatever reason the rotation for the cab 3 comes pretty easy so off a slightly bigger jump I should be able to get the extra 1,we’ll see I spose!

 
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I landed my first 5 at bluecow. Super easy smooth jumps with enough pop and speed to try new tricks off.

Not grabbing with 5s yet, but back 1 nose grabs are feeling super fresh.  Super keen to get a few more cab spins down and to start spinning FS,  don’t think I can even FS 180 yet… Haha

Definitely understand what you mean about corking the 5s! Few of the boys said I was getting fairly off axis on some of my spins I wasn’t landing.

Practice Practice Practice.

Next few tricks im keen to get down is Front and Cab 5s and at least try some sort of flip

 
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Great work, Matty! punch

 
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Another thing I noticed is difficulty to grab with my back hand.  When spinning or straight airs, in cab or regular.

Would this be from using my back hand more for balance?