Burton Custom X/Mission EST Binding Setup
Hey everyone, I’m new to this forum, but I saw a lot of good responses on this page so I thought I’d give it a shot. I just bought myself a 2013 Burton Custom X (160) and Burton Mission EST Bindings (Large) and my boots are Size 12 (American) Gizmo DC Boots. My previous setup was a duck stance 14 degrees both sides and 23’’ distance (from center binding to center binding). I feel like the 23’’ stance was a little too wide for me since my inner front thigh would hurt from a couple runs. When I put the setup on my Burton Custom X (on both reference points) it comes out to 21”. Would i notice a huge difference in riding style? I like to just free ride and carve, not really big into doing tricks, but i would like to try some jumps this season! 
I never really had a channel board, so its kind of hard for me to tweak it. I got a couple questions that I need help with.
First: I wanna try a new stance, maybe 12 degrees front and 9 degrees in the back? Is that pretty common?
Second: How do I figure out the heel/toe centering? When i try to make it even, my toe ramp hangs a little off the front and it still doesn’t seem like they are even. Any tips about that?
Third: Since this board is a twin directional, am i going to have a hard time riding switch?
Any response from anyone would be awesome! I am going to include some pictures with the board setup and a after setup with the boots on.
If any pics would help you, let me know ill gladly take some!
First: I wanna try a new stance, maybe 12 degrees front and 9 degrees in the back? Is that pretty common?
sure. your stance is whatever feels best for you. there is no wrong answer. Try 12, -9 (I think you said duck, right?) and if you feel you want to open up more then try it. Est bindings are super easy to adjust so bring a snowboard tool in your pocket and adjust it after each run til it feels perfect. Oh, and the reference stance is just a reference. It’s a starting point. If it’s hard for you to figure out the exact width, take the bindings off, measure it with a tape measure, mark the points with a sharpie and then put your bindings on. Again, if it’s too wide or too narrow just tweak the width when you’re riding.
Second: How do I figure out the heel/toe centering? When i try to make it even, my toe ramp hangs a little off the front and it still doesn’t seem like they are even. Any tips about that?
It looks fine to me. don’t worry about a mm - it’s not going to make you fall over. You just eyeball it and make it close. from the pics it looks fine.
Third: Since this board is a twin directional, am i going to have a hard time riding switch?
hint: it has twin in the name. twin direction means the shape is a twin, and the tail will be stiffer than the nose for more pop on ollies. You’ll have less pop on switch ollies but it shouldn’t be a problem.
I agree with Gamblor, if this is a pic with your boots strapped into the bindings, then you aren’t goin to center it much better than that!!!!!
The only thing I see that may be an issue is that the flex of the Missions might be too soft for the Custom-X????? Unless they have made the newer models a lot more responsive of late, that is?????
Ohhhh, and welcome to Boardworld, Cali!!!!! 
Missions aren’t soft Mizu. They’re basically cartels from 2012
Good to know!!!!!
They should be sweet then!!!!!
Ya and pretty sure I’ve read an interview or watch a clip where Terje said he rode Customs
I’ve got an older pair of Missions in the Shed and they’re not the stiffest of binders by a long way!!!!!
I’ve ridden 2012 Cartels though, and if they’re the same flex as per Gamblors word, they’re nothin like the older versions!!!!!
Welcome to Boardworld, calitrees818. 
How tall are you?
The great thing about the Channel is you can find your perfect stance! If 23” felt to wide previously, I would try 22” and see how you go. This means you would need to put each binding out half an inch from the reference stance. If you still feel you want to go wide, push each out another quarter of an inch for a 22.5” stance width. The key to finding your right stance is experimentation - it’s honestly the only way to really dial in your perfect stance.
Personally, I would have at least 15 degrees on your front binding. Anything less could make turn initiation slightly more difficult than it needs to be.
Gamblor, you got the shape wrong. It’s a directional shape with a twin flex, not the other way around. The reference setback is also an inch.
That said, it doesn’t make too much of a difference to be honest. Obviously it doesn’t ride switch quite as well as a true twin, but it’s still a freestyle board with a freestyle shape, and it will ride switch with no problems at all, even with a setback stance. If you do want to make learning switch a bit easier, you can turn out your back binding a bit more, i.e. a stance of 15/-15, or you could even centre your stance.
You’ve got your heel/toe positioning pretty spot on there. For future reference, the best way to do this is loosely attach a binding, strap the boot in, flip the board over and gentle slide the binding until you have equal heel and tie overhang. Tighten the binding down, take the boot out, then see through the Channel window exactly what position it’s in (there are lines to visually show you the heel/toe positioning). That’s your perfect position. Always use that setting when setting up your bindings. Generally though, size 12 in a large binding should be somewhere near the middle anyway (depending on the boots). Also, don’t worry if your toe ramp is slightly hanging over the board; it won’t make any difference (you might be able to slide the toe ramp in a bit depending on what setting it’s on).
Let me know if you have any further questions. FYI I deleted your duplicate topic.
I’ve got an older pair of Missions in the Shed and they’re not the stiffest of binders by a long way!!!!!
I’ve ridden 2012 Cartels though, and if they’re the same flex as per Gamblors word, they’re nothin like the older versions!!!!!
Not everyone likes really stiff bindings though (I do but that’s my personal preference). There’s really nothing wrong with Missions. They are a solid binding and good value too. Shaun White used to ride Custom bindings for pipe (and this was years back when they were even softer). I’m pretty sure he rides Cartels now though.
Oops, yeah. Forgot it was a custom x
I’ve got an older pair of Missions in the Shed and they’re not the stiffest of binders by a long way!!!!!
I’ve ridden 2012 Cartels though, and if they’re the same flex as per Gamblors word, they’re nothin like the older versions!!!!!
Not everyone likes really stiff bindings though (I do but that’s my personal preference). There’s really nothing wrong with Missions. They are a solid binding and good value too. Shaun White used to ride Custom bindings for pipe (and this was years back when they were even softer). I’m pretty sure he rides Cartels now though.
I was more lookin at the stiffness of the bindings in relation to the flex of the Custom X!!!!!
I do know the Custom X is one of (if not the?????) stiffest boards in Burtons Lineup!!!!!
I definitely get your point, and I’m not disagreeing with you. But I think the Missions should be fine, and to be honest, anything much stiffer could further accentuate the stiffness of the board, making it more difficult and less fun to ride. Missions should be OK.
I agree!!!!!
Once Gamblor pointed out that the current Missions were 2012 Cartels, I agreed!!!!!
You silly boy!!!!! 
I just like arguing with you. 
Thanks a lot Rider26! It was driving me crazy! Just another quick question, about the high back, i put it on F2, how do i know which setting to put the high back on?
With forward lean, start small (or with none) and gradually try more forward lean. Some people like forward lean, others don’t. It really just comes down to personal preference, but you’d be safer starting with less and gradually trying more until you find your sweet spot.
Also read: https://www.boardworld.com.au/forums/viewthread/236/