Snowboard Brand Chat
There seems to be a big fan club for YES boards on here as well as Burton. I personally don’t really go for one brand for any thing. I have a Forum board which is owned by Burton but I like to support smaller companies and next board will be a FYVE or a Lobster. Not sure who presses the Lobster but I would imagine it’s some other big company. I was even going to try out a smaller company with more grass roots in the sport.
I think if you like some thing go for it fuck what evers “cool” at the time. I agree with you NBG it’s fairly heavy on BW with the brand pushing. But hysteria happens every year in snowboarding they just re-release some thing again or make some minor change and it’s like it’s some thing new. It’s the same ole shit different year.
I’m guessing all members on here support particular brands because they have had positive experiences with that brand. I honestly don’t think anyone on here supports a brand purely because it’s owned by snowboarders.
Just to put the facts out there from Boardworld’s viewpoint. We don’t support brands on the forums just because they are a sponsor. We provide honest and unbiased information about all brands and that’s what Boardworld is all about. I am more than happy to recommend a non-sponsor brand if I feel it is well suited and I have done so many times.
For the record, the sponsoring brands don’t want us to push their product on the forums in an unbiased way either. They have made this clear to me. They believe all the honest information should be put out there and the customer should choose what’s right for them. I think this is the right way to do things. The brands you see supporting Boardworld are brands we approached because we believe in their product. That’s not to say other brands out there don’t make great products either, because they do.
I feel YES has been taking a bit of a hit on here lately because of the amount of support our members have shown the brand. This occurred naturally through demos and experiences with the brand. We had a bunch of YES demo boards at the first Shred and the feedback was overwhelmingly positive. I have personally tested several YES boards rather extensively and my honest feedback is the boards I rode, rode phenomenally. I have always given honest feedback and I always will. I for one was very hesitant about YES when they first came onto the market. I did not form any opinions about the brand until I tried it for myself. I believe the CamRock camber profile is a real winner; it’s super versatile and works for a lot of different riding styles, hence why so many people enjoy riding their boards. I think you will find a lot of our members really enjoy riding YES boards. Look no further than Finney and Marc in Whistler. I ride with these boys and I witness how much they love how their boards ride. Several members purchased YES boards after demoing many different boards (Mizu, Warren, chucky for example). Positive experiences lead to positive feedback/reviews, and this is powerful in a community like ours. Just as I feel NBG has been a positive influence on Lib Tech’s reputation on here. And that’s all cool because it came from honest, positive experiences.
There were quality control issues with the earlier models. No one is disputing that. However the brand made it very clear that they acknowledged this and they made huge steps of moving manufacturing to the Elan factory, one of the best snowboard manufacturers in the world. I think the brand has a very bright future, and it has nothing to do with being rider owned.
I will say on behalf of chucky, the guy has been riding for a long time and he understand board tech as well as anyone on here. He owns a crapload of boards (too many haha), and I have enjoyed his opinions on each one. I personally witnessed the stoke he experienced when he first rode the YES Basic. He was like, “I have to buy this board”. He also wanted to buy that board for his son. This didn’t come about because he just wanted to support a rider owned brand.
Anyway, that’s my take on everything. Take from it what you will. Shred on! 
Don’t think YES is getting hit on because of its popularity on here. Chucky held it up as a model of perfection compared to an evil ski corp like k2, which is ridiculous, especially when you consider all the points others & I have made in the other thread. Yes have had production issues since the beginning and, along with Jones, those issues are now What people talk about. Sure, they moved factory but it will take a while for them to prove they have improved. Imo, they’ve (mostly nidecker)dug themselves a big hole to get of. Look at skip’s new board- it’s different to other people’s same model, and the camber profile could be said to be different to what is advertised. I got a flagship, and it looked nothing like what the site said!
But anyways, I don’t bother commenting when a yes board is recommended, until a perfectly decent k2 is disparaged for being originally a ski company (same as YES!)
My YES typo is the single funnest board to ride i have ridden to date.
Will i get a YES again? not for my next board (DC Ply has that honour) but in the future maybe.
Your so copying me Deano ha ha ha. Actually maybe I’m copying Dylan, only if I get the Ply though as I’m still Mega tossing…..............
haha yeh im pretty much copying him. Although i saw the board first, he ended up buying it! now im spewing i didnt grab it
Freddy’s taking his ply out for its first run today!
K2 is disparaged for being [] a ski company . . .
Interesting.
Evidently, in the opinion of some people, all that needs to be done for a ski company like K2 to be “disparaged” is for someone to tell the 100% honest truth - that K2 are a ski company. No sensationalist claims about poor quality or performance whatsoever, just the irrefutable fact that K2 is a ski company (that also makes snowboards, among other things) is enough.
Speaks volumes.
Let’s get a few facts straight:
- Contrary to previous spurious claims, YES is not owned by Nidecker - the actual owners of YES are in partnership with Nidecker.
- Contrary to previous denigratory claims, YES was not “originally a ski company”. From its inception, YES has been a 100% rider focussed snowboard company, run by snowboarders, for snowboarders.
- Contrary to previous ill-informed claims, YES did not “only come about because Nidecker wanted to push their boards onto the younger generation and make themselves more marketable”.
- Contrary to previous sensationalist implications, although some boards produced for YES by Nidecker in their Tunisian factory have had quality issues, the overwhelming majority have been perfectly fine. Furthermore, it’s now a non-issue because all future YES boards are to be manufactured in Austria, in one of the world’s premiere snowboard manufacturing facilities.
- Contrary to previous deceptive implications, K2 is a ski company which happens to also make snowboards - not a snowboard company which was “originally a ski company”.
Also giving a company a good rap as they support BW sounds a little bit like John Laws cash for comment scandal. For example if someone came on here looking for advice on making a decision between two different brand boards which are basically identical, brand A supporting BW, brand B with no affiliation, what would be more acceptable.
1- Members push Brand A as being the better board with no disclosure as to any interest in brand A
2- Members push neither over the other, tell it how it is in that both are great boards for the required purpose but if they go with Brand A they would be supporting a brand that supports BW.For a number of reasons I would be pissed if I bought brand A in scenario number one and I think most people would feel a degree deception had occurred in that instance and no one likes to feel that way.
There’s a HUGE difference between “giving a company a good rap as they support BW”, and frowning upon the deliberate malicious slander of a company which supports BW.
As far as I’m aware, nobody involved with BW has ever pushed a product simply because the brand/company which sells it sponsors BW. My overall impression is that that BW goes too far in the opposite direction!
In my opinion, BW should edit out any deliberately uncomplimentary comments about any brand that sponsors them - if the criticism is not constructive. That’s just good business sense, and there’s nothing underhanded or morally wrong with it whatsoever. This happens all the time in virtually every other aspect of advertising-driven media. Furthermore, in the interests of integrity, BW should also edit out deliberately uncomplimentary comments about any other brand - if the comments are known to be blatantly false.
remember when k2 sharted??? surely that doesnt reflect well on the company either 
Chucky yes “there’s a HUGE difference between “giving a company a good rap as they support BW”, and frowning upon the deliberate malicious slander of a company which supports BW,” that’s not being called into question. The point of my post is that IMO if someone wants to put forward a board brand that is a BW sponsor that information should also be put forward in the same breath/sentence/post. These brands make it possible for BW owners to continue to provide us with content and a place to have our discussions so most members would see the value in supporting them.
With that said my other point is still valid, no one wants to feel after the fact that they have been pushed towards a product because of a commercial interest. For the good of the forum/site credibility I think it is important for commercial interests to be acknowledged and divulged in this instance. If I was choosing between brands for a similar/identical item and for the same price and I could support a brand that supported BW I would do so, I suspect many others would do the same.
Inr egards to censorship I do not think that is a good thing although I understand the desire, leave the comments to stand, the following posts are usually mroe than adequate to dispel any stupid claims. Censorship in my book is a slippery slope leading to a very boring forum.
Let’s get a few facts straight:
- Contrary to previous spurious claims, YES is not owned by Nidecker - the actual owners of YES are in partnership with Nidecker.
- Contrary to previous denigratory claims, YES was not “originally a ski company”. From its inception, YES has been a 100% rider focussed snowboard company, run by snowboarders, for snowboarders.
- Contrary to previous ill-informed claims, YES did not “only come about because Nidecker wanted to push their boards onto the younger generation and make themselves more marketable”.
- Contrary to previous sensationalist implications, although some boards produced for YES by Nidecker in their Tunisian factory have had quality issues, the overwhelming majority have been perfectly fine. Furthermore, it’s now a non-issue because all future YES boards are to be manufactured in Austria, in one of the world’s premiere snowboard manufacturing facilities.
- Contrary to previous deceptive implications, K2 is a ski company which happens to also make snowboards - not a snowboard company which was “originally a ski company”.
where’s the proof for your ‘facts’?
. . . IMO if someone wants to put forward a board brand that is a BW sponsor that information should also be put forward in the same breath/sentence/post.
If someone with a financial interest in Boardworld suggests a sponsor’s brand, they “could” make it known that the brand is a BW sponsor - but there’s no imperative, morally, legally or otherwise, to dictate that they “should”.
. . . no one wants to feel after the fact that they have been pushed towards a product because of a commercial interest.
When has that EVER occurred on Boardworld???
. . . the following posts are usually mroe than adequate to dispel any stupid claims.
Unfortunately, the overwhelming majority of evidence indicates otherwise.
Apparently, even if someone stated a fact as straightforward as “water is wet”, some people would STILL insist on “proof”.