Park board: wide or not?
Seriously?????
Once again for those who were apparently dropped on their heads (repeatedly) as infants:
K2 is owned by a huge multinational blanket corporation (and its many shareholders) with interests in skiing, coffee, outdoor equipment, plastic bags, electrical appliances, household products, smoke alarms, playing cards etc. etc.YES is owned by snowboarders.
These FACTS are ALL the “evidence” you need.
Considering Boardworld’s strong stance on ‘supporting local snowboarding’, it’s truly deplorable that some people on here display the exact opposite attitude when it comes to other aspects of the industry!
Considering Boardworld’s strong stance on ‘supporting local snowboarding’, it’s truly deplorable that some people on here display the exact opposite attitude when it comes to other aspects of the industry!
Yes is an aussie company? that’s the only way it would be ‘local’ to you.
You still haven’t said (but are implying) that dcp, jp and romain own the company. More like, they own a small percentage, with the rest being owned by somebody with a lot of capital. But they keep that quiet because it’s better to be ‘rider owned’.
Ok, Chucky, let’s see you squirm out of this one:
http://www.nidecker.com/Factory.html
YES is a sub-brand of Nidecker…. but Nidecker started out making furniture, and then ..... skis in 1912!
WOAH!
WOAH!
WOAH!
Pot, meet kettle
Ummmmmmmm, do Nidecker STILL sell skis, or is their primary focus snowboarding?
Obviously if K2, like Nidecker, had switched completely away from being a ski company when they ventured into snowboarding, and was now entirely a snowboard company, we wouldn’t be having this argument.
FFS, sometimes it’s like arguing with toddlers.
Considering Boardworld’s strong stance on ‘supporting local snowboarding’, it’s truly deplorable that some people on here display the exact opposite attitude when it comes to other aspects of the industry!
Yes is an aussie company? that’s the only way it would be ‘local’ to you.
You still haven’t said (but are implying) that dcp, jp and romain own the company. More like, they own a small percentage, with the rest being owned by somebody with a lot of capital. But they keep that quiet because it’s better to be ‘rider owned’.
*sigh*
Way to completely miss the point.
It shouldn’t take a genius to understand that in order for the snowboarding industry to survive, genuine snowboard companies need your SUPPORT.
Isn’t there a single snowboarder in the world that’s done a business degree?
What an absolute load of bullshit. Market demand dictates whether something survives, not some arbitrary support of a few brands. Snowboarding will not die any time soon, stop being so alarmist.
It’s great to support companies that produce good products but the world won’t end if you don’t.
Considering Boardworld’s strong stance on ‘supporting local snowboarding’, it’s truly deplorable that some people on here display the exact opposite attitude when it comes to other aspects of the industry!
Yes is an aussie company? that’s the only way it would be ‘local’ to you.
You still haven’t said (but are implying) that dcp, jp and romain own the company. More like, they own a small percentage, with the rest being owned by somebody with a lot of capital. But they keep that quiet because it’s better to be ‘rider owned’.
*sigh*
Way to completely miss the point.
Let me guess, in this sense, ‘local’ has a different meaning other than the true dictionary meaning - a common story when someone takes your sentences for the literal wording.
Your statement conflicts with your attitude. For someone ragging on a brand that has been around and produced great gear within the industry, you’re not exactly being supportive.
Edit: In fact, so far, you’re the only person attempting to tarnish a brands name here for no other reason than you believe them to be taking advantage of the snowboard industry to make money.
Think of this - no matter which company you spend your money with, that money stays with them. Buying from YES doesn’t mean Rome are getting the money. K2 still has to keep up with the industry tech and quality wise to compete. They still need to use the money to do this. It’s not like every goddamn penny you spend on their boards is instantly leaving the industry.
Market demand dictates whether something survives, not some arbitrary support of a few brands.
“Market demand” at any given time is finite. The MORE the ‘market demands’ snowboarding products from huge multinational blanket corporations who don’t give a shit about snowboarding beyond what money they can make from it, the LESS product the smaller genuine snowboarding companies are able to sell - so the LESS chance they have to stay in business.
When the bottom falls out of the market, only those companies run by people with a genuine passion for snowboarding will care to stick long around to tough it out. The more we support these companies now, the greater the chance they’ll still be in business and will be financially able to weather the storm when the time comes.
Let me guess, in this sense, ‘local’ has a different meaning other than the true dictionary meaning - a common story when someone takes your sentences for the literal wording.
Ummmmmmmm, while you’ve got the dictionary out, try looking up the word “analogy”.
On second thought, don’t bother. Clearly the concept is way over your head.
Considering Boardworld’s strong stance on ‘supporting local snowboarding’, it’s truly deplorable that some people on here display the exact opposite attitude when it comes to other aspects of the industry!
Analogy
a similarity between like features of two things, on which a comparison may be based: the analogy between the heart and a pump.
Please, point out the similarity of two things in your statement.
I repeat:
Clearly the concept is way over your head.
Apparently, anything explained to you just goes in one ear and out the other - so it’s simply not worth wasting my time.
good article here about Nidecker
http://www.7skymagazine.ch/2011/02/21/henry-xavier-nideckerhenry-xavier-nideckerhenry-xavier-nidecker/?lang=en
things I learnt:
-‘numbers’ as in sales figures keeps popping up in the conversation. Looks like they do think about money
- Nidecker is a former furniture, ski, monoski and cross country ski maker, before snowboarding boomed in 1984 and they jumped in (sounds opportunistic, doesn’t it?)
- Nidecker makes paddleboards and makes 35% of the kiteboard market for 7 different brands (so using Chucky’s evil corp theory, they are taking money OUT of snowboarding and putting it into paddleboards and kiteboards)
No, actually, It appears it is not worth wasting your time on an argument that loses credibility every time you post. Perhaps the concept of an analogy is over your head, as you made none that I can see in your statement.
But seriously, how old are you? I would have thought by this age you could debate someone without the petty insults, especially seeing as you provide no credible information to back them, or your opinions, up.
This is why I just buy whatever product stokes me out regardless the company behind it. For me personally, it just doesn’t matter we all have product made in China owned by multinational corp or whatever, so why should snowboarding be any different? Snowboarding companies are not gonna just disappear whether you buy YES, K2, Lib, Burton, or any other. But that’s my opinion. I respect anyone that want to support “genuine snowboard company” so I’m not going to argue against it.
*back to topic*
I agree with SamNZ and Gamblor in that YES has some quality issues (I ride a YES board myself) but I have to say their board rides great. So I have to disagree with SamNZ that YES boards are awful (in terms of ride, not quality). Hopefully after they changed factory, the quality will be improved (mine looks more sturdy and well made compared to YES boards in the past that I’ve fondled in store).