Park board: wide or not?
FFS enough this show is getting boring same episode playing over and over.
Yes only came about because Nidecker wanted to push their boards onto the younger generation and make themselves more marketable.
Oooooooooooooohhhhhh - a genuine snowboard company wanting to make themselves “more marketable” - now THAT’S a company snowboarders should definitely avoid at all costs!!!
People who actually have a clue are aware that the motivation behind a company’s inception should be a driving factor in choosing which ones to support. YES was started by snowboarders, for snowboarders, whereas K2’s snowboarding division was started by skiers for money. In reality, YES “only came about” because its founders love snowboarding - so they approached Nidecker to help turn their dreams into reality.
There is no “rational logic” in thinking that there is any one company in this industry who are not here for the profits, or that K2 has contributed less to this sport than anyone else.
K2 has sucked money out of snowboarding, and funnelled it into skiing, electrical appliances, household products, playing cards etc. etc. - and, of course the big fat wallets of shareholders who have NO interest in snowboarding whatsoever. I don’t believe YES has done any such thing.
People who actually have a clue are aware that it’s not the “profit” per se - it’s where the profits go that’s the issue. People who actually have a clue are aware that the higher the percentage of profits which go directly back into snowboarding, the better it is for snowboarding.
It shouldn’t take a genius to understand that the more money stays in snowboarding, the better it is for snowboarding.
Guess what, Flux started out in car parts - I guess they are just here for the profits too huh? Better boycott those bindings from now on right?
As usual, you’re never one to get your ignorance of the facts get in the way of an irrational rant. Flux didn’t simply “start[] out in car parts” - they started with a passionate SNOWBOARDER who saw an opportunity to effectively utilise the manufacturing capabilities at his disposal, which just happened to be a company which made car parts. People who actually have a clue are aware there’s a huge difference between that and Flux simply “start[ing] out in car parts”.
It shouldn’t take a genius to understand that in order for the snowboarding industry to survive, genuine snowboard companies need your SUPPORT.
Guess what, Flux started out in car parts - I guess they are just here for the profits too huh? Better boycott those bindings from now on right?
As usual, you’re never one to get your ignorance of the facts get in the way of an irrational rant. Flux didn’t simply “start[] out in car parts” - they started with a passionate SNOWBOARDER who saw an opportunity to effectively utilise the manufacturing capabilities at his disposal, which just happened to be a company which made car parts. People who actually have a clue are aware there’s a huge difference between that and Flux simply “start[ing] out in car parts”.
Oh god, irony at it’s best. In the same principal, I could say K2 didn’t start out in skiing, they “started with a passionate SNOWBOARDER who saw an opportunity to effectively utilise the manufacturing capabilities at his disposal, which just happened to be a company which made” skis.
Am I getting in the way of your irrational rant? excuse me then, I’ll leave you to stew on your cynical view of everything ski related in the world. but please, for God’s sake, it doesn’t need to spill out every time someone brings up a company that you believe have a hidden agenda, or appear to want to make a profit in this industry.
K2 took some time off from sucking money from the world of snowboarding and has some great innovations:
the panoramic split with holes for their precut skins, and for easy emergency sled making
the ultra split, with channels for easy stance adjustment
how is this not innovation?
the k2 gyrator came out the same year as the lib skate banana. Those boards brought in the era of rocker boards. It was pretty amazing when it came out.
backcountry equipment that works together to make a sled? awesome!
a shovel that turns into a hoe for better snow removal? awesome!
a different shovel that turns into an ice axe? awesome!
K2 just acquired BCA -> they now make beacons AND airbags! awesome!
ok, and I’m not even a big k2 fan. I’m sure they have wayyyyy more stuff. What does Yes have? just rebranded Nidecker tech and a very questionable track record with quality control.
but they just did all that for the money! not for the love of snowboarding. No one at K2 actually snowboards. They’re just skiers who dream up ways to take money from snowboarders (and if they happen to be amazing products, that’s just an unfortunate coincidence). All companies should be like YES - they don’t do it for the money so they’re giving their boards away, right?
. . . I could say K2 didn’t start out in skiing, they “started with a passionate SNOWBOARDER who saw an opportunity to effectively utilise the manufacturing capabilities at his disposal, which just happened to be a company which made” skis.
Ummmmmmm, except that’s NOT the way it happened. K2 DID “start out in skiing”.
No one at K2 actually snowboards. They’re just skiers who dream up ways to take money from snowboarders (and if they happen to be amazing products, that’s just an unfortunate coincidence). All companies should be like YES - they don’t do it for the money so they’re giving their boards away, right?
For those a tad slow on the uptake, I repeat:
. . . it’s not the “profit” per se - it’s where the profits go that’s the issue. People who actually have a clue are aware that the higher the percentage of profits which go directly back into snowboarding, the better it is for snowboarding.
It shouldn’t take a genius to understand that the more money stays in snowboarding, the better it is for snowboarding.
but you have no proof that Yes are putting more of their profits back into snowboarding than K2.
K2 is owned by a huge multinational blanket corporation (and its many shareholders) with interests in skiing, coffee, outdoor equipment, plastic bags, electrical appliances, household products, smoke alarms, playing cards etc. etc.
YES is owned by snowboarders.
Dude, seriously, do the math.
what f*ckin math? You have no figures! Can’t do math with your imagined evils
What percentage of YES is actually owned by JP, DCP and Romain?
Ummmmmmm, actually, “do the math” is a colloquial term - essentially meaning “simply using the evidence right in front of you, draw the most logical conclusion”.
Yes seem to be a bit pricey as well
Yes seem to be a bit pricey as well
That’s to be expected. They simply can’t compete with the magnitude of the mega ski companies’ distribution channels etc.
It’s yet another reason why, if you want snowboarding run by snowboarders, for snowboarders - the smaller genuine snowboarding companies need your support.
Ummmmmmm, actually, “do the math” is a colloquial term - essentially meaning “simply using the evidence right in front of you, draw the most logical conclusion”.
well, there is no evidence! Your whole argument is based on K2 being owned by a multinational corporation. Ok, if K2 sucks then so do Lib, Gnu, DC, Lobster, Volcom etc etc
and we still don’t know who owns the biggest percentage of Yes.
Evidently, drawing logical conclusions isn’t your strong point.
Evidently, drawing logical conclusions isn’t your strong point.
Evidently, providing proof to back up your claims isn’t yours. “Conclusions” are merely opinions and speculation without facts.
Stop trying to call other people out when you can’t even backup your own statements.