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What makes us human?

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hahahaha. Interesting discussion for sure. Not sure really what I really think about it, but I’m sort of inclined to Mizu’s thinking.

we think we’re so smart and sophisticated, but the rest of nature deals with s#%t (literally and figuratively) much better than we have or ever will do,and without causing undue stress to other environments or species, something that humans have managed to become expert at!

not sure though, really.

 
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I think Mizu has a termite fetish haha.

That whole dean/mizu/nasa/velcro/microwave convo on the last page LOL hahahahaha

 
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First post I stated that apes and birds posses greater genius than humans. We are not a genius race by any means and definitely not more naturally inclined to survive without our intelligence on this planet.

Most important thing to come from the space program is fiberglass.

Termite mounds have plumbing and air conditioning.
Spiders sail through the sky.

Of great importance is that we create art for pleasure. Other life forms are to busy surviving to find the time.
Out of art come our fantasies which lead to ideas and eventuate in creation.

We create to overcome boredom not to survive. In our creations we teach other members of our species. What we don’t do is sit back and wait for others to learn, we teach them.
Chimps and Gorillas cannot teach, but they are great learners because of their higher genius.

As for the entirety of our emotions and feelings no two people have the same balance and some posses much less or more of certain traits/feelings/emotion to the degree that psychopathic behavior forms. Psychopaths are the ones that progress our race more than the emotionally balanced and stable. To be #1 at most sports it takes a screwed up personality, full of misguided desire.

 
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snowbum_spaz - 23 January 2013 11:02 AM

Most important thing to come from the space program is fiberglass.

Wasn’t Fiberglass invented before the Space Program?

 
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deanobruce - 23 January 2013 05:52 AM

Yeh NASA, found it when they went to Uranus

LOL

 
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snowdragon - 23 January 2013 09:57 PM
snowbum_spaz - 23 January 2013 11:02 AM

Most important thing to come from the space program is fiberglass.

Wasn’t Fiberglass invented before the Space Program?

Did some googling because of your query. I always thought fiberglass was made popular when a surfer learned of the product in the 50s and it was developed in the aerospace industry. And at first thought I was wrong but after much reading I can see how this became my knowledge.

I knew composites are very old, first evedence from Egypt is 3500years old. Composite bows were first made from horn/wood and natural glues but until the 50’s surfboards were always carved out of wood. Henry Ford built a car entirely out of hemp composite in the late 1927.

...The first fiberglass surfboard.
In 1946 boat hulls started being produced but the important evolution in the product came from the person who made the first glass board in the same period. So by taking some creative lieniances - modern fiberglass came from surfing! (But not really, sort of).

The aerospace industry “officially” began in 1957 when Sputnik went into orbit and it was that year NASA began. But more accurately it would be fair to credit the end of WW2 as the start. We could be more accurate - the development of jet-turbine engines or when we reached mach1, December 1947. The Cold War began earlier that year.

Since fiberglass was developed in WW2 (it was used to protected radar antenna on planes) and the aero-industry evolved directly into the space industry…

Fiberglass came out of aircraft/radar tech and was made better through surfboard construction all by the same person.

VELCRO: didn’t we copied that from a plant and the way seeds cling to animal fur?

 
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Many animals have “self awareness” including chimps and dolphins. Humans don’t develop it until after the age of 1 or 2. Chimps have it much earlier in their life.

I swear my 16yo dog committed suicide because her quality of life declined; as a young dog was near killed by a car and for 12 years navigated crossing roads alone but then stuck her head into oncoming traffic. Vets I’ve discussed this with have heard the same comment many times.

Cats suffer clinical depression as do parrots, elephants, horses and probably most animals.

 
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Mizu Kuma - 23 January 2013 04:20 AM

We still live in a structured “Survival of The Fittest” Society!!!!!

Money and Power is the thing that dictates who is more likely to succeed, but its a very similar concept!!!!!

We are as territorial as a pack of Wolves, we work in communities like bees, and we breed like rabbits!!!!!

And we all do this in order to ensure the existence of our own species!!!!!

We might think that what we are doing is of great importance, but its no different than what a snail does in the backyard veggie patch, in order to ensure the continuation of its own kind!!!!!

Every living thing on the planet does this by instinct, and not desire!!!!!

Including us!!!!!

I don’t consider the society we live in a “structured survival of the fittest”. We care for and prolong the lifes of the weakest of our species many of them reproduce and pass on their genetic weaknesses.

Survival of the Rich and Powerful. Maybe!

The communal way we live and breeding of our species is working to destroy our existence not to mention harming our planet.

We care for and are aware of the harm we cause to others of our species, other animals and ecosystems. Through

intelligent design

(the term used to describe our current evolutionary process), we try to manage the impact of our actions.

Humane intelligence is developed through teaching others what the genius learns.

Couldn’t agree more with your comment about how important we are. If anything the less we do the better this planet will be.

Of course we should consider that when we leave this planet the the survival of our race will purely depend on our intellect and not natural instincts.