Triple Base Tech? Bataleon
Here Is an update on the evil twin
Took it out today in colder weather about -1 C /30 F icy conditions man-made snow and I gotta say the evil twin came up on top again, little bit sketchy on really icy areas but still held up no washouts at least it doesn’t have megna traction so it’s not like my Banana Magic over ice obviously but put it this way I wasn’t worried to hit ice so I think that says alot.
The board has loads of pop as i mentioned before I can’t begin to describe the amount you produce with this thing, I’m no pro I got to say I can launch this board really high compared to my others, it’s definitely made to fly because off the jumps it’s effortless , compared to the hybrid camber board I saw today and flat that were hitting the same jumps I was getting far more air at same speed.
Handles well again at speed it’s fast without a doubt, minimal chatter, but the board is made to be pushed no forgiveness here atleast not at speed, with the TBT catching a edge isn’t a issue but with how responsive the board is minor mistakes are very noticeable but luckily not that harsh because of the lifted edges.
The board has forgiveness in one area jumps, I landed some sketchy jumps today and it held up very well kept me for falling on my butt and even on the ice patches on the jumps it wasn’t a issue to maintain very control the edge really digs in when it needs too.
Will update later when I hit different conditions
Have you ridden the YES board also Lester? Wondering how you find the boards differ and if you have a favourite yet?
Cool, thanks for the update Lester.
Sounds like you have found a board that suits you very well.
The thing i’m thinking of when you write about how it handles on ice is what you are comparing it too. The hybrid banana is the second loosest type of profile. 2nd only to a pure banana. So saying it’s not as good on ice as your banana magic, is saying that it is equal to or more slippery than the loosest board out there.
So you kinda confirmed what I thought why my Goliath, which is “This is the most slippery type of board on the market”
BUT, it sounds like your ET with the twin TBT isn’t as slippery as my goliath was, because I hated it and you don’t seem to mind it.
So since you don’t mind it on ice, and you love everything else. Sounds like the perfect board for you
You’ve convinced me to try another Bataleon too.
1. But this time I want to try the twin or jib TBT.
2. Try before I buy. But since they don’t do demos, I’ll have to find a mate to borrow one for a day.
Also I think I would have to keep it as a park/powder board, and keep a camber for carving/racing etc.
I usually ride one board for everything, but it might be worth it to have a board with that crazy pop 
@andy: Do you mean the enchanced BTX on the magic or c2 profile in general? If it’s c2, I have to disagree with you. It is not loose at all, I find it real stable the only quirk about it is a little bit squirelly when 1 footing for completely flat basing it.
Cool, thanks for the update Lester.
Sounds like you have found a board that suits you very well.
The thing i’m thinking of when you write about how it handles on ice is what you are comparing it too. The hybrid banana is the second loosest type of profile. 2nd only to a pure banana. So saying it’s not as good on ice as your banana magic, is saying that it is equal to or more slippery than the loosest board out there.
So you kinda confirmed what I thought why my Goliath, which is “This is the most slippery type of board on the market”BUT, it sounds like your ET with the twin TBT isn’t as slippery as my goliath was, because I hated it and you don’t seem to mind it.
So since you don’t mind it on ice, and you love everything else. Sounds like the perfect board for you
I know it’s a strange comparison but the Banana magic with the Enhances BTX! With the megna traction is amazing on ice like scary amazing it does not slide like at all it has a death grip on ice so obviously the Evil Twin won’t feel like that but again it holds up so I can’t complain
@andy: Do you mean the enchanced BTX on the magic or c2 profile in general? If it’s c2, I have to disagree with you. It is not loose at all, I find it real stable the only quirk about it is a little bit squirelly when 1 footing for completely flat basing it.
I’m not saying it’s a bad board Skip, the magnetraction helps to counter the slipperiness. I had an Arbor Westmark which is a pure rocker with grip tech (comparable to a skate banana) so one step looser than the c2 and I loved it!
What I’m saying is (in general, not thinking of edge technology) board profiles can be thought of a range of grip level.
From the most grip to the least, it goes something like this:
Camber
Lock & Load - DC
CamRock
C2
Rocker
I’m trying to figure out if TBT sits lower on the scale than Rockers. The Freestyle TBT definitely does, but I haven’t tried the other 2 types. That’s why I’m asking.
You might say that magnetraction turns ice into powder (at least that’s what the marketing says) but what it really does is take a certain profile and make grippier than standard. But still not quite as grippy as the next profile up the scale.
Ill confirm its under Camrock because I used the The Greats first half of the day till I f-ed up my base and the grip on the Camrock is better then The Evil twin but as i said it held up well not a washout and today was a whole lot icyer then yesterday. Regular rocker boards with no grip tech are way under that in my opinion I have some painful memories of those rocker icey days ouch!
Interesting 
So the type of TBT must really make a big difference.
Because the I would rate the Freestyle TBT looser than a rocker with no magne traction.
I wonder if that means a Jib TBT has a similar amount of grip as a CamRock.
Either way that’d good news for me, cause I really like the theory of TBT, I just hated the way the Goliath rode.
Definitely going to try the a board with the Jib TBT if I get the chance.
*Also* I keep saying grip, but I should really say “ability to carve”. Because if you have been riding for a while, you can make any board grip on ice. What I actually mean is - does this board carve better than that board.
Well stiffness has a big part to play I think
No complaints on carving the Evil Twin, easy turn initiation, well conditions play a part in that and today’s conditions sucked very choppy uneven terrain with ice patches and I was carving all over the place and beating everyone down the runs
@Andy: I see where you’re coming from. It’s weird regarding camrock vs C2. I tried YES tasmaniac (marc’s board) and I thought it felt looser than my Trice. But then I demoed YES pick your line and my T.Rice felt just a tiny bit looser. I think it might be the size of the board too. I demoed a 159 PYL and tried 154 YES Tasman. My T.Rice has a long effective edge for a 153 and the 154 YES probably has way less effective edge due to the rocker (with C2, the contact point is always touching the snow).
Yeah spot on, I would always ride a longer CamRock board.
Your C2 has 3 bends in it. So if you flattened it right out, like what you would do during an aggressive turn, and put it next to a flat board, it’s probably closer to 157 - 158ish.
I was on an Endeavor CamRock board this season and it was a 160 which is the biggest board I’ve ever owned. But it didn’t feel that big.
The other thing to take in to account is the T.Rice isn’t your average C2. I demoed that board for a day, and I would say it’s geared towards Freeriding (Obviously since it says T.Rice on it lol) So I think it’s techy bits and stiffness make it a better freeriding board than other C2s.
Actually, except the CamRocks, that board is the best carving hybrid I’ve ridden.
Yeah the T.Rice rockss! :D (as you can tell I’m a big fan haha)
I have a question about the TBT, that stems from Andy’s experience of one of the narrower styles of TBT. If the FREESTYLE TBT has quite a narrow flat section in the middle of the board, would that effect riding of rails & boxes?
I’ve been thinking that the narrower flat base and the upward curve towards the rails might mean that if you don’t hop up and land exactly with that flat base (extremely possible with goobies like me), it might cause you to stack when you otherwise might not have by slipping on that upward curve section, one way or the other? I can’t see how that wouldn’t be a possibility - but I’ve never heard anybody mention this as a downside to TBT.
Is that possibility of slipping one of, or THE reason the more park/jib oriented Bataleon boards have wider versions of TBT?
Andy described the Freestyle TBT as pretty noodley & I was surprised to see that the Evil Twin & the Distortia have TWIN TBT which is only slightly wider than the Freestyle version. I’d already decided against the Evil Twin (Tri-ax glass - too stiff) and the Distortia (similar specs to my current board which is a bit narrow & soft) but those boards having that TBT pushed me to look to the Airobic, which has PARK TBT which has a wider flat base than TWIN TBT.
Any thoughts? The answers are all probably pretty obvious & everyone on here really knows what they are talking about, so I’m a bit hesitant to bother people by asking but I’m keen to learn all I can about it.
ill just weigh in with what cords said, my evil twin is stiff!!