I really REALLY cant decide
So im looking at getting another car, something i can use for work, so chuck all my tools in and travel comfortably. and then ill also be using it to get to and from the slopes obviously.
I really cant decide between a ford falcon, something like this
http://www.carsales.com.au/private/details/ford-falcon-ute-2006-13753947?base=&vertical=Car&cr=86&page=4&eapi=2&__N=1216
or a turbo diesel 4WD dual/space cab ute
(pretty much undecided on any particular)
HELP!!!!!
You’ll save dollars in fuel with the tubo diesel, it wont need chains and every other reason everyone will give following my post for you to get the it.
Not sure how much coin you want to throw down but,
we love our Amarok, awesome 4x4, work ute etc etc. Highly recommend. 
Azz out of interest whats the average cost of services and are you going to keep it past the warranty period? I only ask as I used to get around in VW Transporters for work and damn those things were exxy to service and repair.
And Dylan you get a shit tonne of car in the Holden and Ford utes like you’re looking at there. If that’s indicative of your price range you’ll probably be happier in the rear wheel drive “sports” style ute than the dual cab. If you think you’ll use the 4wd then something like this isn’t a bad option.
http://www.carsales.com.au/private/details/nissan-navara-2008-12787544?base=&vertical=Car&cr=6&eapi=2&__N=1216 4294680277 4294651036 4294696630 937+898+1247+1282+1252+1246&num=15&silo=Stock&Range=Mileage:Min,150000|Price:10000,20000~1&sort;=~Price
The bullbar and 4x4 in the one that Nthn posted looks like a much better option for someone like yourself who is planning a big snow season.
Fuel economy is pretty decent and a dual cab for mates if you ever have them in your car.
I’d go the diesel!!!!!
As long as the turbo holds up, the motor in a diesel should get double the kms of a petrol version!!!!!
Better fuel economy as Spaz already mentioned!!!!!
I agree with nthn about the VW Transporter, as it was the reason why I ended up with a Vito after research, but the Amarok suffers no known dramas to date!!!!!
Nissan Navaras are peices of shit, and the Nissan 3 litre turbo diesel are well known for major problems!!!!!
Things like the VW or Toyota are dearer, but they are more reliable and have better build quality!!!!!
Ohh I forgot!!!!!
Get yaself some Flux Bindings!!!!!
To be quite honest I was hoping to get better mileage out of my turbo diesel and around town I do, about 11l/100km, unfortunately that doesn’t change much on the freeway maybe a tad under 10l/100km. My old 6litre V8 was good for about 14.5l/100km but then about 8l/100km on the freeway so it was a bit of a shock when it didn’t drop dramatically on the freeway in the diesel.
When I was looking for my car my main decision making criteria once I decided on turbo diesel dual cab were not more than $30K, less than 100,000km, auto, as new as possible and preferably something I like the look of.
I very quickly discovered that Toyotas were very expensive for what you got in terms of equipment, options and even safety and reading into it had problems of their own. The general consensus on 4wd forums that I read being that in the last few years either the competition had caught up in terms of reliability or Toyota had gone backwards. In general terms for the same money as other makes you were getting a car at least 3-4 years older and with 30-80,000kms more on the clock and the styling and interior cabin really left a bit to be desired.
My next port of call was the Nissan Navara D40, can’t go the D22 as it’s manual only. For one reason or another the Nissan was very exxy as well, even on new cars they don’t seem to be willing to discount in way shape or form more than about $1-2000 off the sticker price. They seem to have their share of issues as well, I did think the styling and interior of the Navara was one of the best of the lot in the price range, it wasn’t like stepping back into 1987 getting behind the wheel at least.
I spent a long time looking at the Navara and also had a look at Colorado’s , Rangers, Tritons and BT50’s, the thought crossed my mind about Great Walls but it died almost as soon as it was born. In the back of my head was the idea that the Ranger and BT50 seemed to be really good value for money, unlike toyota’s and Navara’s they weren’t like arseholes in that everyone has one and one day the right one popped up for the right money and I bought it without too much thinking. I went to the dealer, took it for a drive listened to the sales spiel such as it were, went to Maccas had a coffee and brief think and then went back and bought it.
In the brief period I’ve looked at the dually’s in Dylans assumed price range it would appear to be much the same story although I don’t know too much about Courier’s or Rodeo’s the fact that the car I posted was a 2008 model whereas the nearest Toyota is a 2000 model makes me think it’s the same thing.
This is pretty much setup for work straight off the bat, it’s ex govt or lease, hopefully not ex mining though.
http://www.carpoint.com.au/all-cars/dealer/details.aspx?R=AGC-AD-12903420&Cr=3
You could sleep in the dual cab or even set up camp in the tray.
Which I guess you could do in the ford/holden ute but your then restricted to staying out of the park gates (without chains on snow days).
Mate the 4WD comes in handy past DHG or getting in/out of Guthega on snow days and it’s worth doing those drives 
BTW I hooked up with a chick who just had a canvas cover on her ute and a swag - it was comfy enough for a few days.
I’m sure most dual cabs would accommodate your frame across the back seat.
Oh and Dylan your 19 dude, chicks dig the sports utes mwhahahahahahahahahahaha! I bought my first SS ute when I was 23 cause I loved them, I didn’t think girls did but damn was I wrong! You did ok getting up the hill this year without having to take your own car so why would that change, the amount of times having only two seats was a problem in the 8 years I owned SS utes was almost nonexistant. Motoring long distances like you do the XR6, SV6 ute’s are going to be way more comfy, able to overtake without planning 5kms in advance, cut sick burnouts and they wrap around power poles when it’s wet really well too.
On second thoughts please go the diesel champ, you’ll live longer!
Ya might also find a bargain through an auction too!!!!!
For example vvvvvv (but like nthn mentioned about ex mines vehicles, make sure ya know the background of where its been)
Yea i dont like the navara’s, some models have alot of problems
Not to keen on the look of the triton’s either, and i havent heard much about them, good or bad, probably because not too many people have them
yea nthn that is my approximate price range
this seems like something closer to what i would consider getting in the 4wd range
http://www.carsales.com.au/private/details/holden-rodeo-2007-13727335
And make sure ya use Redbook or Glasses to get the market value of what ever ya lookin at!!!!!
Fuel econ. is about weight/power. V8’s are made for the freeway low rpm+grunt without touching the throttle.
Diesel is all about consistency - thats were the savings are made. But they generally make a greater difference in heavy cars - mostly big rigs. If petrol was more economical…. well 
My heavy Territory (petrol) does +14.5L/100k around town. 12.9/100 highway and 11.9/100 freeway.
The 2L aircooled, lightweight VW does as low as 6.5L/100k freeway and at worst 13/100 city and it’s never been driven for economy.
My mates Turbo Rodeo sits steadily below 10L/100k - he drives it to the snow, hauls 500L water tanks around work sites and a tray load of tools up to Robinson each day. It was also cheap(ish) to add the odd pimping to (wheels, raised springs, bullbar, driving lights).
Azz out of interest whats the average cost of services and are you going to keep it past the warranty period? I only ask as I used to get around in VW Transporters for work and damn those things were exxy to service and repair.
Just about due for service #2 (15,000 k intervals) first one was $300. Although, after reading in forums, I was lucky. Most have paid $400 - $500
I used to have an ‘04 TD Hilux, dual cab. Loved that ute. Awesome bush truck, drove that thing up and down from Hotham twice a week for two seasons. Miss it so much. It was a bit heavy on fuel 14l / 100. It was also under powered.
The Rok gets about 10l / 100 driving around here and on a trip will get down to 7.6l / 100. Loaded for camping, boat behind and camping equipment for 8 people, 5 of those on board, it came in at 11.2l / 100 for a trip between Bairnsdale and Tuross head, which is winding & hilly for the most part. I drove the wheels off it to see how well it went and what sort of fuel would be burned. Was VERY happy with it.
I wish I could have our last three 4x4’s in one.
The power of the 200 series landcrusiers V8, the off road performance of the Hilux with the ride, handling, comforts and fuel economy of the Amarok. What the hell, while I am off in La La land, lets make it the fuel economy of the Hyundai i30
this could be an option?!?!?!