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Lance Armstrong stripped of his seven titles

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Mizu Kuma - 24 October 2012 02:58 AM

So, he should just admit to it and at least have the courtesy not to treat everyone like idiots?????

If people want to behave like “idiots”, by naively focussing on the scapegoat rather than the system, and self-righteously making far more out of this than it actually is, that’s their prerogative.

 
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Mizu Kuma - 24 October 2012 03:03 AM
chucky - 24 October 2012 02:55 AM

Once again.

chucky - 24 October 2012 01:54 AM

. . . like a racing cyclist friend of mine said in his Facebook status a while ago:

“To all the self-righteous prats out there: please understand this, the difference between a donkey & a racehorse IS NOT a pharmaceutical leap.”

As someone who has worked in the cycling industry for almost 20 years, knows professional (and ex-professional) racing cyclists who have raced all around the world, previously worked for one of the world’s top bicycle racing magazines, knew Cadel Evans way back when he was still racing MTB juniors, and has been following the Tour de France since 1981, I think I’m in a better position than most of you to make these calls.

So by the same token, you’d agree that those in the industry now, along with those that rode and worked with Armstrong throughout his career, would be in the best position to make a call about his situation?????

NOT when they’re looking after their OWN interests in the process!

 
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chucky - 24 October 2012 03:08 AM
Mizu Kuma - 24 October 2012 03:03 AM
chucky - 24 October 2012 02:55 AM

Once again.

chucky - 24 October 2012 01:54 AM

. . . like a racing cyclist friend of mine said in his Facebook status a while ago:

“To all the self-righteous prats out there: please understand this, the difference between a donkey & a racehorse IS NOT a pharmaceutical leap.”

As someone who has worked in the cycling industry for almost 20 years, knows professional (and ex-professional) racing cyclists who have raced all around the world, previously worked for one of the world’s top bicycle racing magazines, knew Cadel Evans way back when he was still racing MTB juniors, and has been following the Tour de France since 1981, I think I’m in a better position than most of you to make these calls.

So by the same token, you’d agree that those in the industry now, along with those that rode and worked with Armstrong throughout his career, would be in the best position to make a call about his situation?????

NOT when they’re looking after their OWN interests in the process!

But I thought that it was okay to do that????? If they can get away with it, that is!!!!!

 
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I’m not aware aware of Lance ever selling out fellow cyclists?

 
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What about the riders that didn’t cheat?????

 
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Such as?

 
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@humdingling: To be honest I’m fine with it if I’m clean worked as hard as I did while other guys put in the same effort but use drugs. I think it’ll be a greater accomplishment if I can beat them.

 
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chucky - 24 October 2012 03:28 AM

Such as?

Cadel Evans? I strongly believe this guy is clean. And it looks like he was robbed of a victory a few years ago.

 
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Well, as Lance is being crucified largely on hearsay and conjecture, based on his close association with known ‘drug cheats’ . . .

Confessed ‘drug cheat’ George Hincapie was once described by Lance as his “best bro in the peloton”. George Hincapie was Lance’s “right hand man” for many years. George Hincapie later filled that role for Cadel Evans.

 
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rider26 - 24 October 2012 04:53 AM

. . . he was robbed of a victory a few years ago.

By Contador in ‘07?

 
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chucky - 24 October 2012 05:07 AM

Well, as Lance is being crucified largely on hearsay and conjecture, based on his close association with known ‘drug cheats’ . . .

Confessed ‘drug cheat’ George Hincapie was once described by Lance as his “best bro in the peloton”. George Hincapie was Lance’s “right hand man” for many years. George Hincapie later filled that role for Cadel Evans.

clean I might add. So chucky is Lance suspected to have doped his whole cycling career? or just parts of it. CBF reading everything??

 
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redjames - 24 October 2012 05:18 AM
chucky - 24 October 2012 05:07 AM

Well, as Lance is being crucified largely on hearsay and conjecture, based on his close association with known ‘drug cheats’ . . .

Confessed ‘drug cheat’ George Hincapie was once described by Lance as his “best bro in the peloton”. George Hincapie was Lance’s “right hand man” for many years. George Hincapie later filled that role for Cadel Evans.

clean I might add. So chucky is Lance suspected to have doped his whole cycling career? or just parts of it. CBF reading everything??

Cadel “clean”? Possibly? Perhaps he’s even better at hiding it than Lance?

I imagine Lance is “suspected to have doped his whole cycling career” by many in the mainstream public - but that’s only because they know bugger all about the realities of the situation, and are relying on what they’re being spoon-fed by the sensationalist mainstream media.

From what I hear, Lance only did it regularly when necessary, same as everyone else - after his cancer, not before.

 
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Sorry Chucky but the part where he lied under oath was him admitting to a doctor in a room full of people that he had used performance enhancing drugs.

The Dr was treating his cancer. So yes he used prior to cancer.

Glad you know everything!

 
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ozgirl - 24 October 2012 05:55 AM

Sorry Chucky but the part where he lied under oath was him admitting to a doctor in a room full of people that he had used performance enhancing drugs.

The Dr was treating his cancer. So yes he used prior to cancer.

Duh, I didn’t say he never ever “used performance enhancing drugs” before his cancer, I said he didn’t do it “regularly”.

But anyway, just because Frankie Andreu and his wife Betsy CLAIMED they overheard Lance admit to his physician “that he took a number of drugs including steroids, EPO and human growth hormone” does NOT mean it actually happened. Other people in that “room full of people”, Stephanie McIlvain for example, deny such an admission ever took place.

Try again.

 
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I wonder how much Stephanie was paid to say that?

Emma O’Reilly also said he used. In the 1990’s