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Andy thanks heaps for that.
It makes lot of sense as to what you saying.
I never tried TBT technology so i would be taking a chance on that.
Let say if either go with DC or the Jackpot would you take those boards to japan if you where just to do park and maybe little powder runs ?
Thanks
Lano
I would say a rider like you could handle either of those boards in Japan. But the Jackpot will float a little better in powder because it has rockered tips.
I’m working in Japan next season and I will be on a pure camber board. But if you want to float easier in the powder than the Jackpot is the way to go.
If you want the more aggressive board with a little more snap in the nose/tail, then get the DC.I thought that the DC PLY is similar in profile to the YES Jackpot????? ie CamRock Style!!!!!
Similar but not the same Miz. YES boards are Camrock as you know, DCs are “Lock & Load” camber. Which is marketing wanker talk for “Camber with flat tips” instead of rocker tips like the YES.
Yeah, that’s why I said similar!!!!!
I doubt that you’d notice the difference in pow????? eg My Tasmaniac has rockered nose and tail that would see maybe 1mm of lift compared at the most, as compared to a 0 Cambered board!!!!!
It would make a slight difference on hard pack in regards to making the YES less catch free, I’d agree!!!!! And I also think that once the camber of the PLY is using the whole effective edge, the flat section would virtually turn into a slightly rockered profile????? Therefore making the carve almost identical to CamRock!!!!!
Just my take on it!!!!!
Ooooo nice diagram DC.
Good find Dingaling
Given the fact that he DC Ply has less rocker in the tip/tail than his Octorocker (because the Ply has none) and it’s stiffer than his Octorocker, I reckon it’d actually be more difficult for Lano to learn freestyle on - so what’s the point?
Sure, it sounds like a nice board for experienced freestylers, but that’s simply not the case here.
The DC Ply has an extruded base that reportedly gets sticky if not regularly maintained, right?
I find extruded bases considerable slower and ‘stickier’ overall, especially compared to a waxed sintered board - but their selling point is they don’t need much maintenance as the material isn’t very porous, therefor waxing doesn’t do much (rub on wax will suffice).
They are a lot harder also, which makes them less susceptible to damage, and makes them a good option for hitting features that can cause damage!!!!!
“Perfect board for an aggressive slopestyle rider. . .”
“I wouldn’t say that it’s a jib board, the flex isn’t real soft . . .”
“If you’re hitting big jumps and big rails at high speed in slopestyle, then this is the perfect board for you.”
On the basis of Rich’s review, the DC PLY doesn’t sound at all like a beginner freestyle board.
ah this is crap just confused even more.
buy a tobogan
Andy thanks heaps for that.
It makes lot of sense as to what you saying.
I never tried TBT technology so i would be taking a chance on that.
Let say if either go with DC or the Jackpot would you take those boards to japan if you where just to do park and maybe little powder runs ?
Thanks
Lano
I would say a rider like you could handle either of those boards in Japan. But the Jackpot will float a little better in powder because it has rockered tips.
I’m working in Japan next season and I will be on a pure camber board. But if you want to float easier in the powder than the Jackpot is the way to go.
If you want the more aggressive board with a little more snap in the nose/tail, then get the DC.I thought that the DC PLY is similar in profile to the YES Jackpot????? ie CamRock Style!!!!!
Similar but not the same Miz. YES boards are Camrock as you know, DCs are “Lock & Load” camber. Which is marketing wanker talk for “Camber with flat tips” instead of rocker tips like the YES.
Yeah, that’s why I said similar!!!!!
I doubt that you’d notice the difference in pow????? eg My Tasmaniac has rockered nose and tail that would see maybe 1mm of lift compared at the most, as compared to a 0 Cambered board!!!!!
It would make a slight difference on hard pack in regards to making the YES less catch free, I’d agree!!!!! And I also think that once the camber of the PLY is using the whole effective edge, the flat section would virtually turn into a slightly rockered profile????? Therefore making the carve almost identical to CamRock!!!!!
Just my take on it!!!!!
I’m currently on an Endeavor with a CamRock profile and I’ve demoed Lock and Load cambers too.
And you’re absolutely right in what you’re saying about the way it operates. But I can feel the difference in a few ways:
When you stand on a DC the flat tips will become slightly rockered, but if you also stand on the YES those slightly rockered tips will become a more obvious rocker.
Also when landing a jump, if you land flush with the down ramp the part of the board under your foot hits first because the bolts are the lowest part of the board. This can make for a slightly harsher landing on large jumps. Also I prefer the DC for landing spins because you can put the nose or tail down first to slow the spin rotation. On a CamRock it’s more like you put your foot down first (with a little bit of tail pressure).
The upside to spinning on the CamRock compared to the DC is it’s a bit more of a catch free rocker feel. The DCs aren’t quite as forgiving.
Both are good hybrid profiles in my books, it just depends whether you want to lean towards slightly looser or slightly more aggressive.
i am just going to go and find a plank and mount some bindings on top lol…
The Jackpot is a more beginner freestyle board than the ply (like chucky said)
The problem is Lano can get the ply for $260 and the Jackpot for $550
The reason the octorocker doesn’t feel like a nice park board is that, even though it’s only a 5/10 flex, it’s a very torsionally stiff board.
The DC Ply has an extruded base that reportedly gets sticky if not regularly maintained, right?
I certainly wasn’t impressed with my DC’s structurn base in spring slush and I’m boarderline obsessive with waxing/maintenance. Other than that it’s been a great board.
i am just going to go and find a plank and mount some bindings on top lol…
My honest opinion is stick with your current board and make an effort to ride more days (you did something like 3 days this season didn’t you?)
At this stage you’re not going to feel a load of difference between the boards (making the selection process tricky) and probably won’t be held back by your current setup which is already pretty decent.
Getting more days on snow and practicing will see you improve a hell of a lot quicker than simply buying a park board. The whole 90% rider 10% board thing.
He should get a YES Basic 2012 and be done with it then?????
Soft Flex, CamRock, and if there’s a last years floatin around, it will not only be a bargain, it will also have a sintered base for the rest of the mountain, and Japow as well!!!!!
Dave this year i got in almost 10 days as i went to japan for 8 days…
but yeah ...
He should get a YES Basic 2012 and be done with it then?????
Soft Flex, CamRock, and if there’s a last years floatin around, it will not only be a bargain, it will also have a sintered base for the rest of the mountain, and Japow as well!!!!!
^ There’s an option for ya Lano.
That’s actually exactly what you need if you can find one for the right price. Sintered bases are so much better than extruded too.
I was thinking that all DCs had their awesome (golf ball surface) sintered base, but I guess that’s only on certain models. I wish I could find a board that fits me with that base