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Hey ya,
I’m pretty clueless about all things snowboarding really. This was my first season in a couple of years and first time that I took it serious and now I’m hooked.
I currently ride a 156 Sierra crew ‘10 model (it’s only clocked 11 days, 9 of which were this year) and it is far too stiff for me.
I just discovered the joy of rails and the park, however I really enjoy finding runs amongst the trees with natural jumps and drops and a little more pow.
I am 80kgs and about 5’10/11, plan on being around 75 next season.
Any suggestions? Is my currently board decent enough to keep riding, use as a back up or replace completely.
Cheers
stiff…yeah slightly not so much i would want to change boards
would say the crew works exactly what your saying you enjoy doing
its based off burton custom
unless you really want to try different tech there is no need to change boards
I had a go of my mates ride agenda 152 and liked the flex of that a lot more. If I start venturing further into rails and the park would the crew still be suitable?
did you notice a lack of POP when you rode your mates board?
Agenda has a lowrize rocker (flat in the middle rize at ends) so it would “feel” easier to flex…similar to Capita flat kick
secondly that’s under sized for your weight…
would you benefit in the park from having a softer board with reverse or hybrid camber , probably
is the crew suitable yes….
its 90% rider / 10% equipment in the end
Can I ask your opinion humdinga on what having a board that is ‘undersized’ for your weight is going to do?
I’m pretty much the same hight/weight as northern (75kg, 5’ 11’‘) and I mostly ride a 151, in the park. But I also have a 157 for everything else.
A 152 would be fine imo, if you were mostly going to use it for park. Plus you still have a longer/stiffer board to switch to.
I have no problems riding my 151 k2 www pretty much all mountain on days when the snow is packed and know people who go even shorter and/or are heavier and ride something similar.
Personal preference in the end though really.
Yeah i asked because I ride a 149 and so does my husband. He’s 79ish kg and I’m 83ishkg and we’re both 5’6”. Mostly used for stuffing around in the park and bombing freshly groomed corduroy and cruising around the mountain a bit.
I stole this from some other site…pretty much sums it up
If you’re too heavy for a certain board, it will flex too much, which can result in instability, chatter on flats, lack of speed and slowness when moving from edge to edge. If you’re not heavy enough for a certain board, you won’t flex the board enough, which can essentially mean that the board will wind up controlling you
more than you control the board – you will have a very difficult time turning and controlling a board that is too stiff for your weight.
http://www.cju.com/snowboard/Buying a Snowboard/16B964AE-6019-4201-9FAF-23F8C7ABC8D7.html
weight reference was to his reasoning for flex of 152 agenda compared to his 156 crew
im not saying you cant ride underweight (over overweight even)
hell i ride a 153 PBJ and i’m 85kg (5’10”)....when i bomb down run with it
its as loose as a 2 dollar crack whore..can be fun at times especially on fresh groomed stuff….but get into the chop later afternoon…sketchy as…in the end still works though
the reason why i do ride the 153 is to learn butters basically (some park…very little these days though)
as i’m a lazy bastard at heart…works for me because the flex is so soft hardly takes any effort to get the nose up
A smaller board definitely won’t make it slower edge to edge, rather the opposite. But it will be more unstable, particularly when trying to turn/slow down at speeds.
Yeah, a smaller board will turn heaps easier, butter easier, but will be less stable at speeds, and sink more when in pow, and therefore will be slower than it’s longer versions!!!!!
It all still has to be taken in regards as to what profile, bevel, base material, side cut etc etc also, but when comparing the same model in different lengths, that is what the difference will be!!!!!
Thanks for all the help. Might hang onto the crew for a while longer. Got it brand new off eBay for $150 so I cant complain too much.
If I was after something with a little more flex, what type of boards would I be looking at?
i dont disagree with you guys…smaller board = easier to turn
i think analogy is for if your too heavy for the board rather than if you were riding a smaller board
take the nug for instance…its smaller because its designed that way
A board such as the Nug will be slightly harder to transition from edge to edge, as it’s designed wider than a normal shape of similar length!!!!!
But it will be easier to spin, butter and throw around due to it’s swing weight!!!!!
If your board feels too stiff for how you ride, go with your instincts and get a shorter and/or softer board. Board feel is everything, and if you’re not feeling it, you’re not feeling it. If you don’t like the feel of it, you probably won’t ride it much again (sell it?). Or you can keep it in your quiver, if you feel the need for having a stiffer board available (carving etc). I’m not familiar with Sierra Crew so I can’t give any specific advice regarding your board.
Have you read this thread on camber profiles? https://www.boardworld.com.au/forums/viewthread/4119/
Have a read through and let us know which profile or profiles appeal to you. From there it will be easier to narrow down.
Where are you riding mainly? Australia? Overseas? Both?
I think which board you purchase will be influenced by whether you keep your other board or not. If you keep it, maybe you’ll want something significantly shorter and more playful. If you’re keeping it, you’ll want a nice versatile board that works for park, pow and everything in between. So have a think about that.
If your board feels too stiff for how you ride, go with your instincts and get a shorter and/or softer board. Board feel is everything, and if you’re not feeling it, you’re not feeling it. If you don’t like the feel of it, you probably won’t ride it much again (sell it?). Or you can keep it in your quiver, if you feel the need for having a stiffer board available (carving etc). I’m not familiar with Sierra Crew so I can’t give any specific advice regarding your board.
Have you read this thread on camber profiles? https://www.boardworld.com.au/forums/viewthread/4119/
Have a read through and let us know which profile or profiles appeal to you. From there it will be easier to narrow down.
Where are you riding mainly? Australia? Overseas? Both?
I think which board you purchase will be influenced by whether you keep your other board or not. If you keep it, maybe you’ll want something significantly shorter and more playful. If you’re keeping it, you’ll want a nice versatile board that works for park, pow and everything in between. So have a think about that.
That’s a great article Rider, I think something with a reverse camber or the type A hybrid would suit me. How unstable is the hybrid on rails? What are some examples of boards so I can look at hiring or demoing a few next year before buying anything.
Next year will be Oz and the. From ‘14 I’ll be heading o/s during the summer when I can afford it.
I think I will keep the crew as a back up regardless, doubt it will fetch much $$$
It’s relatively unstable compared to say a cambered or flat board, just because you have that rocker between your feet. But it’s that rocker that also makes it playful, turn easily and float well in powder. So you can’t have it all, and that’s not to say they can’t be ridden on rails, because they can - just might take some getting used to.
The most common Hybrid A profiles are Burton’s Flying V (many of their boards have the Flying V profile), Lib Tech’s C2 camber and similar (basically any of their boards without full rocker), and Nitro’s Gullwing camber. There are more out there but those are some big ones.
The Hybrid A profiles are very versatile. The work well across the spectrum so they are a good option for anyone needing a versatile ride.
Let me know if you have any questions.