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SamNZ - 21 September 2012 06:35 AM

NZ has a disappointingly large lack of demos and pro deals for industry.

Sorry to hear that Sam.  I’ll chat to the lads in NZ and see if we can get more of this happening for next season.

 
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skip11 - 21 September 2012 02:40 AM

@trav: No I haven’t, my friend got a TRS but always forgot to try it out. I love the T.Rice so much though it’s hard for me to get another C2 board in the Lib Tech line haha. I’m thinking of either a new 53 T.Rice, 54 Lando, or a Rossi One Magtek for next season if I am anywhere near a country that has a winter haha. Do you think it’ll be slow edge to edge for me on a 57 T.Rice trav? I’m 5’5” 150lbs size 9 boots.

Hey Skip11,

I would avoid the Travis Rice 157 with a size 9 boot.  I think you will find it slow edge to edge.  To be honest personally I think the TRS is the way to go - it’s got a basalt fiberglass combo which makes it lighter, snappier and more responsive, a columbian gold wood core (Mervin’s best wood) and a TNT base!  In my opinion, for the same price as the Travis, you get a much better board!  It’s the board of choice for the majority of the Lib Tech team.

 
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TNT is an extruded base right?

 
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skip11 - 21 September 2012 08:05 AM

Yep, that was back when Lib doesn’t have C2, only banana. He rides C2 now.

I reckon that the C2 is awesome in the pow, and it is most likely due to it havin rocker in the centre for float, while the camber under foot gives the control!!!!!

It was the only time that I enjoyed riding my TRice!!!!!

 
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Okay, I should have said rocker is “easier” to ride powder, rather than just saying “better”. At least for people that aren’t seasoned freeriders.

Although to be really honest, I still prefer rockers in powder. You can just drop or jump off anything and know you dig your nose, it’s a good feeling.
But I’ve only just gone back to a camber this season, so it will probably just take me some time to get used to it.

 
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so, would a tapered cambered board not float as well as a full rocker board? I think it does. Whether you sink the tail (with taper) or lift the nose (with rocker) you achieve the same thing (float)

 
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I guess if everything else is the same (stance, setback, size, rider ability) rocker would float better/easier than camber? e.g. a 155cm twin rocker board will float better than a 155cm twin cambered board.

 
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@mizu: Maybe you should give your Rice a second chance ahaha

 
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@ skip, Snowdragon already bought it off me last year!!!!!

 
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With a surfboard, more rocker actually gives more resistance, whereas a flat rocker travels through fatter/slower sections of the wave!!!!!

If the dynamics are the same or similar, then this throws some doubt on the rocker floats better on powder theory?????

 
Gamblor - 21 September 2012 01:43 PM

so, would a tapered cambered board not float as well as a full rocker board? I think it does. Whether you sink the tail (with taper) or lift the nose (with rocker) you achieve the same thing (float)

My thoughts are that you’re not creating float that way, you’re basically just angulating the board so one end is sitting higher. Rocker actually lifts it up and out, a rear taper will not lift it above the snow, only point it out and above.

 
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you are creating float that way though. wider surface area on the nose makes it float more. If you made a board that was as wide as a door, it would float great, but wouldn’t do so well turning. Smaller tail means the tail sinks and the nose goes up = float. It’s not like riding a rockered board means you’re riding completely on the surface of the snow. Your nose is still higher than your tail. (just comparing a rockered twin to a tapered camber board here). Tapered boards do take away rear leg burn, same as rocker does, because of the boards natural movement in the snow.

Anyways, I’m stoked on the pow boards I have right now (sherlock - flying v & nug - v rocker) so I do like rocker raspberry

 

Okay I see where you’re going. I’m not going to go any further with this as comparing tapers and rockers, what ‘float’ refers too, is a slippery topic and will easily wind up being a mess of idea’s.
I guess at the end of the day, the idea of rocker is that it is a more efficient, and superior float.

 
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A few questions to trav:
1. Is the Lando really 1 inch back setback? The inserts look centered in the pictures
2. If it is 1 inch setback is it just the inserts or also the sidecut?

 
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Hi Skip,

Yeah Lando is a 1 inch set back deck.  The sidecut is not.  This is generally the definition of a directional twin snowboard.  A true directional snowboard will have a set back stance and the sidecut to match.  Lando’s board also has a slightly longer nose to handle the pow. 

As far as TNT bases - I’d say both extrududed and sintered - it has characteristics of both! It is dual layer - the first layer is tough like an extruded base but the bottom layer (exposed to snow) is made from a fluoro base material (think teflon non stick pan) and is softer more like a sintered base.  TNT bases are fast and tough without the requirements of continual waxing in traditional base materials.