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Anyone got a chance to demo the new Lib C3 camber? Been hearing about this for a few months, really curious on how it would ride.
Apparently there’s another C3 board called the Hot Knife limited release.
My guess is that it will ride similar to that of a Regular Camber/Camrock style profile!!!!!
I want to try it!
Hey BW crew,
Glad to see you’re stoked on the C3. This camber profile featured on this years Jamie Classic. Mervin will have a few more boards running this new camber profile in 2013 winter - STAY TUNED!
Here’s some more info on the Hot Knife:
MACHO SNOWBOARDING MADE EASY!
C3 Hot Knife: The C3 Hot Knife is the perfect all terrain quiver killer for the aggressive skilled snowboarder. Tons of pop, control and precision for carving, big landings, fast clean pipe lines, committed controlled takoffs, nasty backcountry lines, etc. The name says it all…cuts through what ever you throw at it like a hot knife through butter. Twin all terrain freestyle shape, mag .5. Medium firm flex.
What: C3 Camber Dominant Banana tech. This board/contour takes traditional ski inspired camber snowboard designs from the 80’s 90s and pushes them into the future with modern snowboard specific banana technology rocker between your feet. The result is the most high performance cambered snowboard ever built!
Who: Aggressive skilled freestyle and freeriders.
Why: The Hot Knife C3 camber dominant board is the board of choice for several different riders.
90s ripper: The guy who ripped in the 90’s on camber and likes that camber feel but wants upgraded modern performance.
The modern ripper: who is killing it in all terrain right now and has the power and skill to put the worlds best camber design to work.
The Pipe or Park specialist: who wants the carving performance, speed, stability and precise control that the worlds best camber board can provide.
It looks to me that it’s just the C2 with more camber and less rocker.
Which means it’s a camber board with just a little rocker in the middle but not enough for the rocker to touch the ground.
I’ve now ridden all camber profiles except this one (Though I have ridden the C2 which is similar) and I stand by what I’ve said for a while:
If you want a camber, BUY A F*&^ING CAMBER!!! And the same applies to a rocker.
Listen to my words people - Hybrids can give the WORST of both worlds. The CamRock is the only hybrid worth having and it’s still not quite as good as either Camber or Rocker. But it’s a nice stepping stone from loose Rockers to the aggressiveness of camber.
You can’t have it all, but going pure rocker or pure camber will tick way more boxes then most hybrids IMO.
How ever I will reserve judgement until I ride the new C3.
Being that it’s mostly camber, it may take the title of “King of the Hybrids” away from the CamRock.
We shall see
Hahaha you’re like anti Hybrid Andy. I personally don’t like full cambered boards, feels like I’m controlling the board all the way at the tip and tail and in slush it digs in a lot. I also don’t like full rocker boards or banana style rocker. It’s either have to be C2 style or Camrock for me. So keen to demo C3 though I’m back in Canada this winter.
I think hybrids generally are quite a good idea for specific purposes, mainly beginners or people who just want an easier catch free ride. I really have no idea how this thing is going to ride, but my thoughts are generally not in its favor.
I don’t see why you wouldn’t just get a regular camber, if you were going to get this - there’s a reason why a lot more pros and others in the industry choose to ride camber.
I hear what you’re saying Andy but I guess everyone has their own opinion of what they prefer to ride. As far as hybrids being the worst of both worlds - Personally I have ridden all of the different cambers over the years and these days I prefer the hybrids. I want a board that I can jib on, ride all mountain, hit some jumps, shred some high speed groomers and smash some pow if it’s around. I personally don’t think a cambered board or a rockered board comes close in being so versatile. If you want to just smash big kickers, ride aggressive all mountain or race then yeah a cambered board is probably more your thing, and yeah if you want to shred some pow or get your jib on or something just free and easy then a rockered board is probably your best option.
In relation to C3 camber - We had lots of die-hard camber riders give the Jamie Classic a spin this year at our demo days and they were all about it. I think this camber really suits traditional cambered riders who want something that will give them a bit more versatility and all round performance.
Each to there own eh boys..
I personally never thought I would EVER ride anything but camber..16 years worth of camber. I tried rocker..but found it too “skatey”..and went back to camber. The first hybrid I rode was the TRS. Now I don’t think I could ever go back..I find that I can still go as fast, crank turns, pop good ollies, float in pow..and have my contact points free from catching..to me its win/win/win. To me C2 or Ec2 is just amazing.
C3 is looking forward to the movement back towards “camber”..and I use the word loosley as this is camber done the right way, with a mild “banana” hump between your feet..still focussing power and edge hold between your feet, but obviously giving the C3 boards a much more aggressive feel. The slight “banana” gives the board a nice natural arc. These boards are going to sick for freeriding, pipe and carving the crap out of the hill!!
Our JLynn Classic this year was the fore runner for this style of profile..and I had lots of my staunch “older school” friends that still rip hard froth on the thing..guys like Bart Joseph and Mark Cowley couldn’t believe how good the board rode. A little inside scoop..all the JLynn Phoenix models are the C3 profile for 2013/14. As well as this we will have the Hot Knife and two models in GNU that are also C3.
Look out for our demo tour next year..we want as many crew on the new boards as possible..coming to a resort near you!
Sorry guys, I didn’t mean to rant like that. I just want people to think before they buy, cause certain boards suit certain riders(that’s what I should have said lol)
I will say that the Mervin factory should get a lot of props for trying to push innovation in snowboarding.
My Lib Tech dark series rocker was one of my favourite boards.
I’m actually on a CamRock right now (though I kinda wish it was a camber) so it’s not like I hate all Hybrids. I just think some are very specific to a style of riding.
I didn’t like the C2 for rails but loved it for freeriding. So personally I didn’t buy one but some people would love it.
If what you say about old camber guys loving this C3, then I’m very interested to demo it.
What I really want to find out by riding it is:
1. Does it carve smoothly with the extra contact point, though it obviously would get more grip from it which is a plus.
2. How does it do on rails?
I’m guessing it’s more geared towards freeriding or just jumps. And there’s nothing wrong with that if you’re not into rails. Only a good demo can tell I guess.
My rant was more about hybrids in general, I can’t speak about a board I haven’t ridden yet.
Hope you guys are demo-ing at Perisher
If you want to just smash big kickers, ride aggressive all mountain or race then yeah a cambered board is probably more your thing, and yeah if you want to shred some pow or get your jib on or something just free and easy then a rockered board is probably your best option.
Sorry man, but will disagree here - camber is by far superior for both. The best jibbers in the world are riding camber boards, as are the ones hitting kickers, and as for big mountain and pow? Camrock or camber. If you want “free and easy”, for learning with or progressing, then yeah, fully agree, a rockered board would be more your style. Different styles have their benefits, and I don’t think you can ever have one profile as an all level rider, all mountain killer.
A cambered board sure is versatile enough to do everything though- - I mean, we rode them happily until all this rocker technology came out, didn’t we? Coming back to my point about these boards being more geared towards learning and progression, anyone who’s of a more advanced level just doesn’t want a one quiver killer. They’d rather have their park board and pow board (and more than likely both will have some form of camber).
Our JLynn Classic this year was the fore runner for this style of profile..and I had lots of my staunch “older school” friends that still rip hard froth on the thing..guys like Bart Joseph and Mark Cowley couldn’t believe how good the board rode. A little inside scoop..all the JLynn Phoenix models are the C3 profile for 2013/14. As well as this we will have the Hot Knife and two models in GNU that are also C3.
When I see people killing it on the board, I’ll believe the people who know better are fans of it. When I get to ride it (probably never because lib tech don’t do demo’s in NZ) I can decide whether it’s something I like it or not. No doubt it works - or it wouldn’t be marketed - but whether it’s actually superior to either traditional camber or camrock is another question.
@trav and stockstandard: So the Hot Knife and the Jlynn classic are the only 2 boards coming out this year (2012/2013)? Why does Lib makes boards with waist width so wide. Example: I have the 2011 153 T.Rice which I love a lot but then if I want to buy the next size the waist width increases by a lot and I only have a size 9 feet. Same thing with the Jamie Lynn classic, the 157 only comes in a wide.
Actually I prefer having one board for everything, rather then having a pow and a park board.
Say what you want about the guy, but Shaun White rides his one pipe board EVERYWHERE, even japan! And I like that idea.
(Don’t hate me for the Shaun White reference Boardworlders lol)
I like to only ride one board all season so there’s no adjusting and I can… become one with the board….
I guess that’s why camber profiles are so important to me, cause it’s been a real search to find which board is best at doing everything I like in boarding (Which is pretty much everything)
And the best board for me has definitely changed as I’ve changed as a rider. So I guess there probably is a person for every camber type out there.
But don’t just believe the marketing folks, (I made that mistake once ) most good manufacturers will run demos to back up their claims. Choose the board that feels like it was made for you.
@trav and stockstandard: So the Hot Knife and the Jlynn classic are the only 2 boards coming out this year (2012/2013)? Why does Lib makes boards with waist width so wide. Example: I have the 2011 153 T.Rice which I love a lot but then if I want to buy the next size the waist width increases by a lot and I only have a size 9 feet. Same thing with the Jamie Lynn classic, the 157 only comes in a wide.
Skip Shhhhhhhhhh lol.
They make wide boards, I have size 13s bro. I need this
Say what you want about the guy, but Shaun White rides his one pipe board EVERYWHERE, even japan! And I like that idea.
(Don’t hate me for the Shaun White reference Boardworlders lol)
Torstein also uses his board for park and pow, just in different sizes. I mean sure you can ride one board EVERYWHERE, whether or not it performs as well as a different length or profile is different.
I also used to ride the same board everywhere - you know this Andy, I rode a WWW in Canada for park and Pow. I just hated it on groomers and wasn’t a huge fan of it in the park either - but it worked everywhere.