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Hi

I am 5’8”, weight 75kg. Onto my second season and been using an old old burton cruzer 155 to date. Comfortable on greens, reasonably happy on most blues, haven’t ventured onto blacks yet, so I’d probably class myself as a higher end beginner or lower end intermediate maybe ?

Have good options on 2013 custom flying v 156, or 158, or a 2012 gnu carbon credit 156. The burton is only $100 more than the gnu. Don’t do park, jumps, etc just like to cruise at this stage.

I mainly ride turoa or whakapapa so it suffers from ice a bit.

Would appreciate any thoughts/feedback, thanks

 
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Globe - 08 September 2012 12:30 PM

Hi

I am 5’8”, weight 75kg. Onto my second season and been using an old old burton cruzer 155 to date. Comfortable on greens, reasonably happy on most blues, haven’t ventured onto blacks yet, so I’d probably class myself as a higher end beginner or lower end intermediate maybe ?

Have good options on 2013 custom flying v 156, or 158, or a 2012 gnu carbon credit 156. The burton is only $100 more than the gnu. Don’t do park, jumps, etc just like to cruise at this stage.

I mainly ride turoa or whakapapa so it suffers from ice a bit.

Would appreciate any thoughts/feedback, thanks

Well you came to the right place for advice

Im not a big fan of Burton personally I had a 2012 Custom beginning of last season but i had the camber version not Flying V and had it for barely 2 month then you can see for yourself what happen (pic below)

I then went to a Lib Tech Banana Magic and took it all over North Cal and Colorado through some pretty rough condition (rocks, drops, lots of ice) and the board held up very well (great in pow too)... Gotta love Mega Traction but GNU and Lib tech same people make em Mervin Mfg so just my opinion just from experience go with the GNU

But hey give it a day or 2 and the guys from Boardworld will help you out no worries and trust me these guys have a whole lot of expertise in the area, I don’t buy anything for snowboarding without checking with them

good luck

 

Hey Globe,

The GNU has Magne-traction which will be a bonus up there at Rupeys with the variable weather, The burton has their similar tech but it won’t be as good as GNU’s as far as I can see due to not as many “wiggles” in the edge therefore less edge over all. (my own speculation though and it’s just from looks)

The GNU is also banana which isn’t awesome up at Ruapehu on ice and firm snow or riding at higher speeds - The burton has camber under the feet which will help with that stability a bit.

To be honest either board would be fine for you. I hate to endorse burton, but the custom 156 would probably suit you better at Ruapehu.

 

I also have an option on a process flying v but the reports I have read on that are less than complimentary.

Bloke in shop suggested skate banana or attack banana. Skate looks a bit park focussed for my tastes. Attack (& custom flying v) could be a bit too advanced maybe for me at this stage ?

Of course there is the old faithful Ride Manic I can get for a pretty good price also (opposite concerns to attack banana, that is I may outgrow it very quickly). Too many options, if only someone came up with the perfect board…..

 

Which shop are you being recommended the Skate and Attack Banana at?

I still think the burton will do you better over the ride manic as the manic is a pretty low tech standard board. The burton has dual camber and a variation of magne traction so it will stick to ice a bit better.

 
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Globe the carbon credit and the skate banana are essentially the same board so I wouldn’t be too concerned about one being more park than the other.  The attack banana is on my list to demo hopefully this year along with the DC Ply.  I have a skate banana but I’m currently riding a T Rice 157 for the reasons that Sam mentioned above, sometimes the full rocker gets a bit squirrely at speed.  For just doodling around the mountain the banana is a lot of fun and I found it helped me have a lot more fun all over the place than the traditional camber Rossi that it replaced.

I would look at something with the magna traction and perhaps some form of hybrid camber if the hardpack ice is as bad as it sounds at Ruapehu.

 

So I’ve decided to go with a rossignol. Either the one magtek or more likely the Templar, Templar is a 158, one magtek 156. Any feedback on this ?

Also after a recommendation for bindings to match with this board. Cheers

 

You will appreciate the Templar’s slightly softer flex, the 158 will be good for powder, but if you can get it in the 55 you will have a lot more fun with it on groomers and if you wanted to do any spinning off jumps/walls. So otherwise I’d say the 56 one magtek would probably be better.

Why are they the only boards? Stores should be able to call up the Rossi dealer and get the right size sent to you - or even check the online stores for places like Base who only have stores in the south island. It’s be good to look at the Taipan 156 or Krypto 156 (The Krypto is based off the Experience which is an awesome board, but purely for big mountain only).
Also the people who import Rossi to nz are Summit Collective, you can email them or message their FB about looking for the board you want.

 
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random jump from burton vs gnu to dead set buying rossingol to specific sizes only

can only assume his found a place with where these are on sale i guess
theres no other reason for it

The One
40% Camber 60% Rocker
7/10 Flex
Shape….............................True Twin w/AmpTek All-Mountain Rocker
Flex….................................Directional All-Mountain
Tips….................................Progressive Radius 420
Waist…...............................250mm to 264mm
Sidecut…............................7.5 to 8.5m Magne-Traction 7M
Core…................................Wood CBF1 w/Aramid
Base…................................Sintered 4400
Range….............................Intermediate to Pro

Templar
40% Camber 60% Rocker
6/10 Flex
Shape….............................Directional Twin w/AmpTek All-Mountain Rocker
Flex….................................Directional All-Mountain
Tips….................................Progressive Radius 420
Waist…...............................247 to 260mm
Sidecut…...........................7.4 to 8.1m Magne-Traction 5S
Core…................................Wood 6420 Core
Base…................................Sintered 4400
Range….............................Intermediate to Advanced

pretty similar specd boards
one is direction and other is true twin
slight difference in flex and sidecut

agree with same
Templar sounds like more your cup of tea but not at 158~
unless you have a reason to up size from your current 155

 
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I’ve demoed both boards, One Magtek last season and Templar this past spring. Both are great boards, I thought the flex is similar with the One Magtek slightly stiffer. This year I think One Magtek added some basalt so I don’t how that is going to change the ride. Both boards are set back 3/4 inch so I don’t know why the spec says true twin. I think you should go with the templar, such an easy board to ride and the price is relatively cheap too. I’m getting either one of those boards this coming season.

 
skip11 - 11 September 2012 02:34 AM

I’ve demoed both boards, One Magtek last season and Templar this past spring. Both are great boards, I thought the flex is similar with the One Magtek slightly stiffer. This year I think One Magtek added some basalt so I don’t how that is going to change the ride. Both boards are set back 3/4 inch so I don’t know why the spec says true twin. I think you should go with the templar, such an easy board to ride and the price is relatively cheap too. I’m getting either one of those boards this coming season.

True twin refers to the shape of the board, not where the inserts are placed or even the core/construction between the tail and nose. My examiner told me something this season, that is apparently there are only 2 or 3 boards that truly have the same nose and tail. The K2 WWW is one of them.

 
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SamNZ - 11 September 2012 03:37 AM
skip11 - 11 September 2012 02:34 AM

I’ve demoed both boards, One Magtek last season and Templar this past spring. Both are great boards, I thought the flex is similar with the One Magtek slightly stiffer. This year I think One Magtek added some basalt so I don’t how that is going to change the ride. Both boards are set back 3/4 inch so I don’t know why the spec says true twin. I think you should go with the templar, such an easy board to ride and the price is relatively cheap too. I’m getting either one of those boards this coming season.

True twin refers to the shape of the board, not where the inserts are placed or even the core/construction between the tail and nose. My examiner told me something this season, that is apparently there are only 2 or 3 boards that truly have the same nose and tail. The K2 WWW is one of them.

You referring to K2 snowboard right ? Not out of all snowboards there are only 2-3 that truly have the same nose and tail

 
Lester86 - 11 September 2012 06:12 AM

You referring to K2 snowboard right ? Not out of all snowboards there are only 2-3 that truly have the same nose and tail

No, as I was told, out of all snowboards currently made, only about 2-3 have a truly symmetrical flex pattern/core construction and board shape. The WWW is one of those boards. (it’s basically just a piece of wood covered in p-tex)

 
humdingaling - 10 September 2012 09:02 PM

random jump from burton vs gnu to dead set buying rossingol to specific sizes only

can only assume his found a place with where these are on sale i guess
theres no other reason for it

The One
40% Camber 60% Rocker
7/10 Flex
Shape….............................True Twin w/AmpTek All-Mountain Rocker
Flex….................................Directional All-Mountain
Tips….................................Progressive Radius 420
Waist…...............................250mm to 264mm
Sidecut…............................7.5 to 8.5m Magne-Traction 7M
Core…................................Wood CBF1 w/Aramid
Base…................................Sintered 4400
Range….............................Intermediate to Pro

Templar
40% Camber 60% Rocker
6/10 Flex
Shape….............................Directional Twin w/AmpTek All-Mountain Rocker
Flex….................................Directional All-Mountain
Tips….................................Progressive Radius 420
Waist…...............................247 to 260mm
Sidecut…...........................7.4 to 8.1m Magne-Traction 5S
Core…................................Wood 6420 Core
Base…................................Sintered 4400
Range….............................Intermediate to Advanced

pretty similar specd boards
one is direction and other is true twin
slight difference in flex and sidecut

agree with same
Templar sounds like more your cup of tea but not at 158~
unless you have a reason to up size from your current 155

got it one man (well almost).

Read the reviews of the rossis and they seem to be really good boards. The burton seems too much too soon for me, and SamNZ suggested the CC wouldn’t be too flash for my “local” slopes.

Why 158 rather than 155 (a) the 158 is the only size templar they got left in stock, and from all the charts i’ve seen 75kg is upper limit for a 156 and middle of the road for a 158, but hey, I’m new to this so I’ll gratefully take all advice.
CHeers

 
SamNZ - 10 September 2012 08:20 PM

You will appreciate the Templar’s slightly softer flex, the 158 will be good for powder, but if you can get it in the 55 you will have a lot more fun with it on groomers and if you wanted to do any spinning off jumps/walls. So otherwise I’d say the 56 one magtek would probably be better.

I was concerned the one mag tek would be a bit too stiff for my level being a flex rating of 7/10.

Everyone i talk to says get a flex rating 4 or 5 ideally (of course the burton is a 5 so here we go again the continious circle of confusion and indecision)....

 
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No, the magtek will not be too stiff for you. I demoed it last year and the flex is not really too much of a difference with the Templar. Plus, it’s already an easy board to ride because of the rocker.