Here we go again (global warming)
It all comes back to one simple thing…
Dollars.
what about the dollars? They go from one lot of people’s pockets into another lot of people’s pockets. I’d rather be on the side minimising the impact either way.
Spot on Deano 
This is going to come across as rude, i am sincerley not trying to be rude but,
If you dont understand what role $$$ plays in this issue then i am not going to bother with the argument. Im not going to explain the entire issue.
I honestly think, we could swap to a more sustainable way of living as a country, maybe globe, BUT, it would hurt millions of people in the transition to sustainability.
The downfall of the economy would bring hell on earth of biblical proportions and I ain’t religious.
Exactly, it costs a metric f*ckload to change our industries over to greener technology. The companies sure as hell aren’t going to foot the entire bill, that leaves the government i.e. the taxpayers to foot the rest of the bill.
And you try tell the general population you are going to take some of their money to go to green tech and see what happens…
Good times.
Why does this topic illicit such cultish slavish religious fervour like behaviour from the devotees to climate change rhetoric? I’m all for saving the planet but from my reading on the subject the “proof” is inconclusive and the planet goes through warming and cooling behaviour all of it’s own accord. If there is a current warming trend I doubt that even 1% of it is actually due to humans.
There are far greater issues regarding the planet such as overcrowding and chewing up of resources at an unsustainable rate. The industry I was in was very much in love with the climate change idea as it fed millions upon millions into the industry directly and indirectly through things like the carbon tax and escalating power costs.
The thing I don’t understand about the greenies is that they would like to have their cake and eat it too. They want green energy but they don’t like wind farms due to various reasons like visual and noise pollution, nuclear is incredibly clean but thats a big no no due to the requirement to store the waste material at the end of it’s useful life. Then they foist on us things like the electric car which run on batteries and need to be fuelled by energy from the grid placing more demands on the brown power stations currently in place. Hybrids run on batteries as well which contain some incredibly toxic shit that needs to be disposed of at the end of the cars lifecycle in some form of dump. This shit reeks of hypocrisy which when combined with their quasi communist ideals and slackjaw immigration policies means I would actively vote against them at every opportunity.
So not a fan of Clover Moore then? hahah
If she fell into a woodchipper I might help. Push her further in that is.
hahahha
Its actually unfortunate that this issue is so contentious and that so many competing agendas are underpinning it. It makes it close to impossible for the average person to obtain the real truth of the matter ... Whatever that might be. I have to agree that the $£€¥ involved will mean that any real action will be minimal.
Why does this topic illicit such cultish slavish religious fervour like behaviour from the devotees to climate change rhetoric? I’m all for saving the planet but from my reading on the subject the “proof” is inconclusive and the planet goes through warming and cooling behaviour all of it’s own accord. If there is a current warming trend I doubt that even 1% of it is actually due to humans.
There are far greater issues regarding the planet such as overcrowding and chewing up of resources at an unsustainable rate. The industry I was in was very much in love with the climate change idea as it fed millions upon millions into the industry directly and indirectly through things like the carbon tax and escalating power costs.
The thing I don’t understand about the greenies is that they would like to have their cake and eat it too. They want green energy but they don’t like wind farms due to various reasons like visual and noise pollution, nuclear is incredibly clean but thats a big no no due to the requirement to store the waste material at the end of it’s useful life. Then they foist on us things like the electric car which run on batteries and need to be fuelled by energy from the grid placing more demands on the brown power stations currently in place. Hybrids run on batteries as well which contain some incredibly toxic shit that needs to be disposed of at the end of the cars lifecycle in some form of dump. This shit reeks of hypocrisy which when combined with their quasi communist ideals and slackjaw immigration policies means I would actively vote against them at every opportunity.
That is funny.
Greenies don’t like wind farms? ...did you make that up? nice generalisation. In that case ...right wingers don’t like knowing they are living unsustainably and throw a tantrum if anyone dares suggest so. The first thing they rely on is hollow one liners like ‘climate alarmist’ and ‘quasi communist’. Thats one of the reason I actively vote against them at every opportunity…(whoop di dooo who cares….)
Nuclear energy…..you conveniently gloss over the problem of the waste product. We can store it on the northshore I suppose.
Can I have my electric car back?
throw the byproduct in the middle of the desert., build some immigration/concentration camps on top of it.
#WINNING
throw the byproduct in the middle of the desert., build some immigration/concentration camps on top of it.
#WINNING
I preferred putting it under the north shore or some other similar slum.
I have often wondered if you could shoot nuclear waste out into space, far enough out that it will keep going and have no chance of coming back into orbit at any stage or maybe send it into the sun. I wonder what the costs would be. That would get ride of the biggest draw back. Although there would still be some safety concerns.
seems I couldn’t help commenting again. I thought your post on the $$$ would have been a nice end to this one. There is 0% chance there will ever be agreement in this thread.
throw the byproduct in the middle of the desert., build some immigration/concentration camps on top of it.
#WINNING
I preferred putting it under the north shore or some other similar slum.
I have often wondered if you could shoot nuclear waste out into space, far enough out that it will keep going and have no chance of coming back into orbit at any stage or maybe send it into the sun. I wonder what the costs would be. That would get ride of the biggest draw back. Although there would still be some safety concerns.
seems I couldn’t help commenting again. I thought your post on the $$$ would have been a nice end to this one. There is 0% chance there will ever be agreement in this thread.
Unfortunately the costs would be very high, unless you build a space elevator. Not only that, sending a nuclear payload into the atmosphere could be catastrophic if anything went wrong on the flight. Mind you, it didn’t stop them powering the latest Mars rover with plutonium. Even if all that was ok, look at the risks on earth. Ask the Japanese people if they’re still cool with nuclear power. To give you an idea, they turned off all of their reactors since the tsunami disaster.
Personally I’m waiting for a breakthrough in solar, but it is struggling at present.