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Hey guys I stumbled across this and thought id get some feedback, anyone try Bataleon boards yet? they appear to have some different concept bending the base on easy side in the nose and tail, basically rounding the edges on the base itself, hard to explain but check it out, would love some feedback from any one that has been on one.
It interests me because of all the positives : catch free, float, pop, forgiveness, playfull sounds like something
TBT? Triple Base Technology? Never heard of that before… This sounds like a gimmick… Who is this bataleon company who has lots of good riders endorsing their gear and other company’s that use the same tech!
... actually they’re really good. Lobster boards use the same tech. All you need to do is search these forums or google for information on bataleon and you’ll come up with heaps of info.
https://www.boardworld.com.au/forums/viewthread/4636/
https://www.boardworld.com.au/forums/viewthread/5165/
https://www.boardworld.com.au/forums/search_results/043ebeebb8bcb428404630cad0c5cde3/
I have the 2012 evil twin, its rad, only thing i dont like is its prob a little stiffer than id like but still love riding it though.
Its catch free to an extent but it doesnt make it non existant, ive still caught an edge whilst buttering.
Havent tried it in powder yet so i cant comment on its float but i will be able to give it a good test in japan in feb.
Maybe K2 can give his thoughts as he rode mine on the weekend for a run.
Can anyone confirm or deny that the “distortia” model is the women’s version of the evil twin? Same but with a slightly narrower waist width and a bit more flex?
Some info in this thread as well: https://www.boardworld.com.au/forums/viewthread/4119/
I will try to find out, cords.
Hey Crew!
Cords - the Distortia - yeh pretty much the same style as the Evil Twin. It used to be identical, however for the 12/13 boards the Distortia has Bi-ax glass (a bit softer, easier to flex and more playful - a better all-purpose ride) instead of the Tri-ax glass found on the ET which is built for super high performance, aggressive park and freestyle work. This little change has also made the Distortia a little cheaper that the ET which is nice.
Any other questions, fire them through…
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Cheers
CK
I did give Trent’s Evil Twin a (very very quick) ride last Saturday at Baw Baw. Really didnt get to do a proper test, run was too short. But noticed the TBT straight away. I felt like I could put the weight on nose or tail and just move it in any direction with out catching an edge. YOu still can catch an edge but I noticed I could easily move between the three bases and lift the other edge to avoid catching with pure ease. Not like a reg board that you really have to be consious of your edge when buttering.
The board was definately way too stiff compared to what im used too, so found it a bit weird trying to carving. If Trent finds it stiffish, then i found it solid cos I weigh less and found it hard to transfer my weight effectively during carves.
But it felt playful with that base set up.
Also,
I’ve noticed a lot of talk about demo days here…
Demo’ing TBT is tough - as you may have read here and elsewhere, in order to REALLY get a feel for TBT you need to spend some time, usually around a full day of getting used to it. In saying this, beginner riders tend to ride it without noticing any difference, but immediately reap the benefits.
for this reason, we don’t do too many public demo days. We find it can turn some customers off rather than letting them truly experience TBT.
All of our retailers have demo boards you can try, and if they dont have one in your size, they can get one fairly easily. This is a good way to really understand what TBT is all about.
If you find yourself at a public demo, first of all slap me a high 5, and then keep an open mind when you ride the board, and remember that the changes you need to make to your riding for TBT become natural very fast, and you get the benefits without having to think about the way you are riding.
Hope this helps.
Cheers
CK
Demo’ing TBT is tough - as you may have read here and elsewhere, in order to REALLY get a feel for TBT you need to spend some time, usually around a full day of getting used to it. In saying this, beginner riders tend to ride it without noticing any difference, but immediately reap the benefits.
for this reason, we don’t do too many public demo days. We find it can turn some customers off rather than letting them truly experience TBT.
Completely agree, TBT is something that I found I definitely needed at least a full day before I started to get a full understanding of just how different it was. The more I rode my Evil Twin the more understanding I had of TBT, you can read all you want about it but you won’t know for certain whether it’s exactly what you’re after unless you’ve ridden one.
One thing I will say is that the Evil Twin has a hell of a lot of pop to it, lots of fun popping big nollies of rollers etc.
I had a 2012 154 which I rode in Revelstoke, Big White and also in Whistler. In Revelstoke and Big White on the lighter interior BC snow the board was great in powder but in the slightly heavier snow in Whistler I did struggle a bit but at the same time I think the the 154 was a touch short for me so that was definitely a contributing factor.
As I said previously give one a full day before passing any sort of judgement on TBT.
wow, thanks for the fast replies!
So is it the bi-axial glass which gives it the greater flex than the ET, then? and will that therefore reduce pop? (I need all the help I can get). Seems hard to get a happy medium between being flexy and playful but still having decent pop and stability.
Even if it is a bit softer than the ET I reckon it’d still have tonnes of pop being a full camber board.
yep. I was thinking the ET would be my next board (possibly my dream board)...but I think I just changed my mind. Bataleon Distortia it is!.....unfortunately it won’t be for a while as I only got a new board last year that doesn’t have many days on it. Its alright but I don’t love anything about it.
Hey Cords.
The combination of flex (I call this softness or playfulness as I think it better represents what I’m talking about) and pop is a tricky one to get right. Most all round park boards have this balance. There are of course problems with this - evil twins for instance if you want a softer ride you should ride one size down. Where as the Bataleon airobic is perfect in your normal size.
A big stiff board with tri-ax glass has more pop of course, but it also is less forgiving.
The distorts has hardwood inserts along the binding areas going out to the tip and tail. This generates awesome pop, while providing a forgiving and playful ride. I reccomendation riding this board in your ‘correct’ size.
Most people will agree that most boards these days are pretty poppy. Even the soft ones. If you’re a female rider of any ability and want to progress the distortia is in my opinion the best board on the market (and has the best graphic). If you buy a distortia and struggle for pop I would work on your technique with an instructor or get some help here.
To find your ‘corect’ size hit your local snowboard store that sells Bataleon. Problem with the distortia is that is sold so damn quick this here. I hope you can still find one. If you can’t, please contact me at .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)
Hope that helps further. Don’t hesitate to fire through anymore questions.
Pretty sure i’d be after the 149
My previous boards were an all-mountain 153 Rossi, 150 Omatic Sweet (regular camber, tri-axial, HEAPS of pop but I found it really hard when trying to learn presses) and now on a 149 nitro runaway (gullwing). I am probably a wee bit heavy for the 149 at the moment, but won’t be for too much longer.
Will mostly be used for trying to progress on boxes, jib stuff and learning spins and grabs on small and medium sized jumps (and maybe straight airing some bigger jumps towards the end of the season if I’m feeling good!).
.....but as I said, it will be a little while off, I’m not in any position to be getting a new board now (as much as I wish I was!). Not too fussed on the 2013 graphic, liked the 2011 version the best, then 2012 was alright and 2013, meh!
Guys thank you for all the feedback, i checked out the other forums too and all i hear is positive stuff, I talked to CK got some info from him too,, thank you all. I’m picking up a YES. The Greats coming up but I’m also thinking of up one of these just to add to the collection and also to try it out for a season get a full demo season instead of a demo day . I would buy it and worst case pick up the greats after but the way these fly off the shelves and same for the greats I rather be safe then sorry.
Here’s is where the question comes in guys, which to pick CK narrowed it down to the Riot and the Evil Twin and both look great to me only thing im worried about is them in Pow meaning Whistler Pow, most of my practice will be done in the park, med to big possibly huge jumps and all but its all going to come down to Whistler so any input here when it comes to Pow. Also CK mentioned the ET would be great and is a little more forgiving but the softness makes me worry going fast and on the steeps feel like it might not hold up but hey what do i know
any and all info would be greatly appreciated
I have a 2012 Bateleon ET 156W and love it, you can still catch an edge as mentioned by i love being able to rock from edge to edge with ease, and have found it really easy to edge hard at speed. Definately reccommend them as a board!