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Best Snowboard for Jumps and drops

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rider26 - 23 August 2012 10:55 PM
Lester86 - 23 August 2012 10:03 PM
rider26 - 23 August 2012 06:55 AM

K2 is right. Unless you’re rocking 0/0 angles, the asym sidecut will help you. Also, you probably should have a duck stance if you want to progress your freestyle skills. Definitely play around with you stance when you get the chance.

Thank for the tip I currently -6/+15 stance I remember tweaking it a little last season but not to the point of doing with a duck stance, any tips on where to start from I was thinking like a -12/+12 to start and then make the adjustments accordingly

+15/-6 is duck stance. wink Duck stance includes any stances that have a positive front angle and a negative back angle.

Oops i thought it had to be the same angles well thanx, but I’ll still mess with it +12/-12 to help in my progression in riding switch and landing switch

 
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Lester86 - 24 August 2012 01:34 AM
rider26 - 23 August 2012 10:55 PM
Lester86 - 23 August 2012 10:03 PM
rider26 - 23 August 2012 06:55 AM

K2 is right. Unless you’re rocking 0/0 angles, the asym sidecut will help you. Also, you probably should have a duck stance if you want to progress your freestyle skills. Definitely play around with you stance when you get the chance.

Thank for the tip I currently -6/+15 stance I remember tweaking it a little last season but not to the point of doing with a duck stance, any tips on where to start from I was thinking like a -12/+12 to start and then make the adjustments accordingly

+15/-6 is duck stance. wink Duck stance includes any stances that have a positive front angle and a negative back angle.

Oops i thought it had to be the same angles well thanx, but I’ll still mess with it +12/-12 to help in my progression in riding switch and landing switch

Just try and see how you go. If you don’t like it adjust it again and see how you go.

Like many have said its personal thing and what works for me may not work for u.

 
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Will do thanx

 
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Guys im definitely picking up one YES. The Greats does anyone know when these are going to ship to the states Ive been trying to get a hold of YES but no luck only thing I heard was “this fall” and I also contacted my retailer backcountry.com and yes just say they will be arriving soon hmmm just don’t want to miss out on them so any inside info would be great

http://onboard.mpora.com/features/product/20122013-product-preview-snowboards-jp-solberg.html

I recently saw this video (link above) where JP Solberg is giving a preview of the Great for 2013 he mentioned something about the riding the board the wrong way now Im assuming he meant about putting you heels where your toes should go. But here is the thing and correct me if Im wrong but there is only one way to setup the board meaning there is one front/back depending if you are reg or goofy but Im just wondering considering im goofy I will techniquely be riding the board backwards compaired to a reg stance rider right?


Also Im been reading good and bad things about the Asymmetrical Side-cut, anyone have any pros and cons about it from experience, I think it is a damn good idea i just never had a chance to use it yet.  I have the link below of a review that mentioned some iffiness about the Asymmetrical Side-cut. any info would be greatly appreciated.

http://www.angrysnowboarder.com/2013-yes-the-greats-used-and-reviewed/

 
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I wouldn’t take The Angry Snowboarder too seriously - anger clouds the mind. wink Actually seems like a pretty positive review though. I had no issues with the Asym sidecut. Works really well when I tested the board.

I would assume they should be in the shops soon. 2013 product will start hitting the shelves soon. I’d give it a few weeks and try again. If you’re heading to Whistler, The Circle carries a big range of YES boards.

* Lester lives in the USA so it’s not feasible to buy from Australia. Hence why I’m giving him advice on when/where to purchase overseas.

 
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rider26 - 28 August 2012 06:20 AM

I wouldn’t take The Angry Snowboarder too seriously - anger clouds the mind. wink Actually seems like a pretty positive review though. I had no issues with the Asym sidecut. Works really well when I tested the board.

I would assume they should be in the shops soon. 2013 product will start hitting the shelves soon. I’d give it a few weeks and try again. If you’re heading to Whistler, The Circle carries a big range of YES boards.

* Lester lives in the USA so it’s not feasible to buy from Australia. Hence why I’m giving him advice on when/where to purchase overseas.

Thanx, Rider26

I’m definitely hope to pick it up well before Whistler to put it to the test

 

Hi!

This has been really interesting topic and I had to register to join the conversation.

I’m looking for a similar board for back country, but I don’t need it so much for practicing in the park.
Right now I ride 157 Uninc (09) for park and pipe back home and don’t need to change anything there. But when traveling (to the Alps usually) I don’t know what I want to ride.

Some years ago I took a trip to Japan with cambered Malolo 162 and older Uninc 158 (my favorite board so far), but I din’t like the Malolo so much that I ended up riding the Uninc for half the days. And we did not hit the park for once. I think the main problem was that I could not get a decent ollie with it.

Since then I have had and ridden Rome Anthem 162 (camber) and K2 Turbo Dream 159. The Anthem is actually really good board anywhere and I rode it last winter on days I needed more pop or better edge hold than the TD could provide. I thought the Turbo Dream was the board I was looking for, and it is really good everywhere and I really liked it in powder, but my biggest problem is still the ollie power.

So what I need is a board with a good pop and at least a decent float in the soft stuff.

Right now my candidates are:

YES. PYL: The float is there for sure, but what about the pop? The ride should be closest to the Anthem from the boards I have ridden. When traveling I would have the Uninc for pure park days.

YES. The Greats: The pop should be there, but how is the float? Let’s say compared to the TD. In my head I see this as an rockered Uninc. So what not to like?

Jones Mountain Twin: I heard in 2013 the camber area is extended past the bindings and stance is setback 20mm. Should be something between the first two. So not a bad choice at all.

My stats are 5’11”, about 185 lbs and US10 boot. I have been riding for more than 10 years.

Here is a little video of our last trip to give an idea what kind of riding and terrain I’m needing this board for.


Thanks for all the help!

 
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hey snowball2 welcome to Boardworld! shaka

firstly, nice video! Some awesome terrain and snow conditions you are riding there, and great riding too. Super jealous if thats the stuff you get to ride all the time.

Out of those three boards you listed, I havent ridden any, but would say go with the PYL. Havent heard much bout the Jones, but from what I can see in the vid, the terrain you are riding will suit the PYL perfectly. It was designed for charging big lines so I imagine it has reasonable pop.

Maybe Skip can give us a bit of info on this as he demoed it earlier this year.

 
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Hey snowball2, welcome to Boardworld. cool smile

Sick video by the way!

I haven’t tested the PYL so I can’t really comment on the pop of that board. Hopefully Skip can give us some insight. I would imagine the board would have good pop though, from my experience with other YES boards, not to mention the carbon stringers in the PYL.

Do you want one board to do it all, or will you travel with a small quiver?

If you want one board to do it all, I wouldn’t look past the Greats. I’ve owned and loved two Unincs myself, and the Greats has to be one of the best all-round boards I’ve ever ridden. I feel if you enjoy how the Uninc rides, you’ll love the Greats. It’s a similar board with the added versatility of CamRock, and you’ll definitely notice it floats better than regular camber.

If you want a board purely for big mountain and deep pow, the PYL might be the way to go.

 
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Ya I demoed the PYL earlier this spring. Here are some thoughts I wrote before

YES Pick Your Line 159 w/ NOW bindings
This combo is sickkk. Probably the best board I’ve tried so far, I did not want to get off this board. I would like to try the 156 but they only have a 159 which is on the longer side for me. It doesn’t ride like a long board though, felt I could ride it like my 153 T.Rice just that there’s more nose that tail. Really stable at speeds, carved great, just an all around awesome board. Flex is a medium stiff probably around a 7/10, which is the same as my T.Rice. One thing I need to get used to is the tip is “flapping” a bit when you ride fast. It has more camber than the Greats or any other YES boards which is nice. You can feel the rebound when carving and doesn’t feel as loose as the Tasmaniac (same as the Greats) I tried (Marc’s board).

About the pop, I’m not a park guy so I didn’t test the pop of jumps but just simple ollies here and there I would say it has a good pop. Maybe not as good as your UnInc but still pretty good. It’s a directional board so if you like to ride switch a lot probably not the best. Even though with my limited switch skills I didn’t notice a big difference when riding it switch. I would say go for the bigger size if you like going fast and you’re pretty heavy. With the rocker it’s going to feel like a smaller board so you will be able to easily control it. I demoed a 159 but it feels like a 153-155 board with a long nose and tail.

Hope this helps.

 
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cheers skip!

 
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alrighty.. here we go.

I’m 5’11’’ ~163lb’s and also ride with a US10 boot.

I own a 154 YES tasman(iac) which is essentially a greats and rode it solidly all last winter in Whistler in all conditions with a 23.5” centered stance. Deepest powder I rode would have been on one day when 40cm fell overnight and another 20cm fell through the day so a total of 60cm. On that day I had no issues with float whatsoever apart from some sections which weren’t that steep and pretty mellow through some trees. This was the only time in the whole season that the board didn’t float but really it was a stupid move to go into that section as it was too mellow to keep any sort of speed up and honestly I don’t think anyone would have made a pass through that section without getting stuck on that day. But going by your video there you’re riding much steeper terrain therefore not an issue for you.

This picture was taken by Dan83 on here on the ~60cm day and gives you an idea of just how floaty the greats/tasman can be, just leaning back a bit and it just surfs through the deeper stuff effortlessly.

I’ve also ridden a Jones Mountain twin aswell which my mate owned and did some very crazy stuff on such as dropping Air Jordan off Peak Chair. To give you an idea he’s around the same stats as me and was on a 154 aswell.

Here’s a pic of him hitting Air Jordan to give you an idea…

Basically the Jones is also made by Nidecker who were making the YES boards aswell so they’re both of the same build quality and have the same tech with CamRock etc but this years NoHe boards for YES are being built by another company, can’t remember exactly who though but I’ve had a chat with Yohan who runs the Underground Tuning shop and handles all the YES warranties in Whistler and he’s pretty excited about this as he’s confident the build quality will be significantly better again.

Honestly after riding the Jones it felt a bit planky and lifeless compared to the Greats/Tasman.. kind of like the YES typo (it’s essentially a Basic with CamRock) which I rode for the previous winter in Whistler. Don’t get me wrong, it’s still a good board and I had a great time on it over the 2010/2011 Winter but having switched to the Tasman for 2011/2012 which has the Asym sidecut and the carbon stringers I did notice just how much poppier and more lively the Tasman/Greats is.

Essentially I think it’ll just come down to whether you’re after a twin or directional board. Personally I’m a much bigger fan of a twin as it’s far more versatile.

If you’ve got any other questions feel free to post them up and I’ll get back to you.

Cheers,
Mike.

 
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Just dropping in to say, that video was sick! surprised words can’t describe how jealous I am lol. Almost makes me want to go to Austria > Japan for my next trip.. LOL

 
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finney - 06 September 2012 05:18 AM

Basically the Jones is also made by Nidecker who were making the YES boards aswell so they’re both of the same build quality and have the same tech with CamRock etc but this years NoHe boards for YES are being built by another company, can’t remember exactly who though but I’ve had a chat with Yohan who runs the Underground Tuning shop and handles all the YES warranties in Whistler and he’s pretty excited about this as he’s confident the build quality will be significantly better again.

They are moving to the Elan factory. Yohann is a champ.

 

Thanks for all the replies and comments on the video. It was shot in one week, so you can see that conditions and terrain varies a lot.

I think the biggest problem is I can’t decide what I want smile (or I want both of the YESes)

My initial thought was to get the PYL and use it as a small quiver with the Uninc. The PYL would be good enough everywhere, so I would not have to think which board to take when there is any change of powder. And then I would have the Uninc for park days.

But then I started thinking what kind of board I have had most fun with and realized it was the Uninc (actually liked the older 158 Uninc little more, but they are both good). If I didn’t have the Uninc, I would pick the Greats no doubt. And the Greats is a board I would really like to have, but I’m afraid I want something stiffer from time to time on the back country - enter PYL.

So basically my heart says the Greats and my brain says PYL.