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rider26 - 20 August 2012 04:16 AM

I’m a big fan of reverse camber (or a hybrid) in deep pow. It just makes it more fun! I still prefer riding full cambered boards 80% of the time but rocker definitely has its merits. I rode cambered boards in pow for years and I can still do it no problem, but I much prefer being on a rockered board on those deep days; quite simply, it keeps me riding for longer. Not only the float in pow, but later in the day when everything is still soft but chopped to bits, you can just fly over everything.

The question is, do you want this board purely for riding deep, fluffy pow? Or do you want something more versatile? You bought a Skate Banana last season, didn’t you? What size is it? I’ve actually heard from a lot of people that they go really well in the pow.


Rider is right, the banana does well in pow, maybe just try that?

 
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it is a 156 banana but i thought it would b a little too short for the powder…. buying this board will be pretty much dedicated to riding powder..


ill have to check that board out when i get home im at work and the website is blocked downer

 
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fatima4u - 20 August 2012 04:34 AM

it is a 156 banana but i thought it would b a little too short for the powder…. buying this board will be pretty much dedicated to riding powder..


ill have to check that board out when i get home im at work and the website is blocked downer

If funds are no problem buy a libtech split board with all the gear haha…and sell it to me if you don’t like it.

Other wise one of the some of the Pow specific suggestions earlier by people were pretty spot on.

 
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In that case, definitely consider a directional snowboard. You have your Skate Banana for everything else and it will handle smaller pow days no problem either.

I still think the Burton Fish is the best pow-specific board out there. It’s designed to ride powder - plain and simple. You would have so much fun on a Fish in Japan. The downside: it’s not versatile. It rides pow, bumps and trees very well, but don’t bother trying to land switch in pow.

 
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take 2 boards. take less clothes. your bag weight will work out the same in the end.

 
captain howdy - 20 August 2012 03:10 AM

Personally i’d avoid a super flexi park board, it will be fine for park, but you really don’t go to Jappers to ride park. I also avoid reverse camber boards - i just feel they don’t have enough power to drive through the snow - this is just personal taste!

Why do you not like softer boards in powder? Powder is on of the few places I like my k2 www. The 2010 one I had was quite soft and rockered, the 2011 one I have now is a bit stiffer (still a softish board though) and 80% flat under foot and rockered tips, both have a 3 degree base bevel.

 

For Japan I think you’d benefit from a Camrock board with mid/soft flex depending on preference. Remember that yeah even though it’s Japan you still may not have powder all the time so a soft flex might be more fun on trails and (as far as I know based from Canada) the snow doesn’t melt and freeze to chop as often as it does down in this hemisphere, so a stiff board isn’t necessarily needed as often. But it’s already been said, two is always better than one!

 
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TJswish - 20 August 2012 04:01 AM

. . . big mountain pow boarders generally go standard camber as it lands jumps better is what I meant.

NONE of Jeremy Jones’ boards are standard camber.

Besides Terje, did any other Red Bull Supernatural riders choose cambered boards to compete with? (even then, to accommodate the camber, Terje’s Burton Juicewagon has a pow designed tip/tail)

 
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rider26 - 20 August 2012 04:45 AM

I still think the Burton Fish is the best pow-specific board out there. It’s designed to ride powder - plain and simple.

Riders of the Jones Hovercraft may disagree with you.

rider26 - 20 August 2012 04:45 AM

You would have so much fun on a Fish in Japan. The downside: it’s not versatile. It rides pow, bumps and trees very well, but don’t bother trying to land switch in pow

That’s why the Charlie’s a heaps better idea.

Years ago, before Japan’s resorts became “Perisher with sushi” I would have gone with a Hovercraft or Fish, but besides the fact that you’re never fully guaranteed pow in Japan, there’s no guarantees the best spots won’t be tracked out quickly. That’s why it’s better to have a board which is also fun while riding to/from secret stashes.

Then there’s also the point that for an Aussie to get value for money from a pow board purchase, it’s a good idea to get a board that can also handle Aussie pow days - great first up, but quickly tracked out and chunked up.

 
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SamNZ - 20 August 2012 05:19 AM
captain howdy - 20 August 2012 03:10 AM

Personally i’d avoid a super flexi park board, it will be fine for park, but you really don’t go to Jappers to ride park. I also avoid reverse camber boards - i just feel they don’t have enough power to drive through the snow - this is just personal taste!

Why do you not like softer boards in powder? Powder is on of the few places I like my k2 www. The 2010 one I had was quite soft and rockered, the 2011 one I have now is a bit stiffer (still a softish board though) and 80% flat under foot and rockered tips, both have a 3 degree base bevel.

as i said before - i’ve ridden all sorts of sizes, shapes and cambers in powder/park/groomers and for me i just love the camber. I feel like i have more control and power though the snow. Saying that my Capita is flat with kicked out nose and tail - what do they call that… low rise or something?? or is that what ride calls it. i can’t remember…. either way that’s as close as i have to something different to camber.

 
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rider26 - 20 August 2012 04:45 AM

Years ago, before Japan’s resorts became “Perisher with sushi” I would have gone with a Hovercraft or Fish, but besides the fact that you’re never fully guaranteed pow in Japan, there’s no guarantees the best spots won’t be tracked out quickly. That’s why it’s better to have a board which is also fun while riding to/from secret stashes.

 

only about 3 resorts I’d add into the “perisher with sushi” class (love that expression - permission to use plz)  there are about another 597 or so that are relatively untouched

 
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Good point el Capitano. Although I may be wrong, but I think Mika’s just going to the major Niseko/Hakuba ones.

 
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CRACKERS - 20 August 2012 04:29 AM
rider26 - 20 August 2012 04:16 AM

I’m a big fan of reverse camber (or a hybrid) in deep pow. It just makes it more fun! I still prefer riding full cambered boards 80% of the time but rocker definitely has its merits. I rode cambered boards in pow for years and I can still do it no problem, but I much prefer being on a rockered board on those deep days; quite simply, it keeps me riding for longer. Not only the float in pow, but later in the day when everything is still soft but chopped to bits, you can just fly over everything.

The question is, do you want this board purely for riding deep, fluffy pow? Or do you want something more versatile? You bought a Skate Banana last season, didn’t you? What size is it? I’ve actually heard from a lot of people that they go really well in the pow.


Rider is right, the banana does well in pow, maybe just try that?

I have done a few trips to Japan now. Last year I rode my Gnu Park Pickle 159w which I think is similar to a Skate Banana (bit stiffer + Assymetric) and my Ride Machete 158. Both boards went well with the Gnu probably better when it got real deep as it is a wide tank of a thing (265 waist). Prior to this I rode a Ride Decade 160 which is a cambered 3/4 setback board which is quite stiff. It wasn’t too bad but like Rider said, you can just ride longer and a bit easier with a reverse cambered board. I reckon the Skate Banana would be quite OK but if you need a reason to get a new board, going to Japan is as good as any. My pick: Charlie Slasher as a Japan all rounder + the Skate Banana for non-pow days

 
captain howdy - 20 August 2012 06:41 AM
SamNZ - 20 August 2012 05:19 AM
captain howdy - 20 August 2012 03:10 AM

Personally i’d avoid a super flexi park board, it will be fine for park, but you really don’t go to Jappers to ride park. I also avoid reverse camber boards - i just feel they don’t have enough power to drive through the snow - this is just personal taste!

Why do you not like softer boards in powder? Powder is on of the few places I like my k2 www. The 2010 one I had was quite soft and rockered, the 2011 one I have now is a bit stiffer (still a softish board though) and 80% flat under foot and rockered tips, both have a 3 degree base bevel.

as i said before - i’ve ridden all sorts of sizes, shapes and cambers in powder/park/groomers and for me i just love the camber. I feel like i have more control and power though the snow. Saying that my Capita is flat with kicked out nose and tail - what do they call that… low rise or something?? or is that what ride calls it. i can’t remember…. either way that’s as close as i have to something different to camber.

yeah, there’s no doubt camber gives you better control - actually it’s even been suggested in the past that T. Rice rides a camber version of his pro model board for big mountain. But I was actually more interested in the reason you didn’t like a board with more flex specifically in the powder.

 
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i just think that my banana is a bit too small for riding in powder.. im 100kgs and 181cm and wmy banana is 156 cm… the correct size for me would be about 160cm wouldnt it??

i just dont wanna go 2 japan and struggle with the board that i have got

 
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fatima4u - 20 August 2012 09:39 PM

i just think that my banana is a bit too small for riding in powder.. im 100kgs and 181cm and wmy banana is 156 cm… the correct size for me would be about 160cm wouldnt it??

i just dont wanna go 2 japan and struggle with the board that i have got

i used chemical storm board 156 i thinks and it was fine ...  I am 183cm and 80Kg